Out of intetest where do they publish the uk vibrancy league? Well done for topping it.

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I wouldn't sign him.

However, if our Director of Rugby and Head Coach think we can use him then I'll back their judgement.

Don't like him, don't want him, don't need him.

Rather have somebody like TG or Sarsfield who would run through a brick wall for this club and their team mates. Wouldn't be happy to see somebody like Tommy or Haggy replaced by that moron in our 17.

Hock in Playing terms is on different level to anything we have or indeed anything our comp or outside the top four in SL has to offer.

I can't see any deal happening as I would estimate he's on at least twice Fui Fuis salery at Salford and to put it into perspective his current would be more than Derek and the whole of the BOM including myslef have invested to date in the club combined let alone on one player. I also doubt we have a great deal of room on the cap now either to acomadate another massive earner.

If Hock leaves Salford I'd see him going to RU the only way we could get him here would be by way of a massive severance deal and pretty much a write off of his existing contract by Marwan if he wanted shut so badly.

World class forward but an absolute liability and in a squad that's so together and tight knit like ours would you risk upsetting that balance and the apple cart???

Harrison was in my box with his missus (next to Derek's) he enjoys watching Leigh when he can and he lives in Pennington. Has nothing but praise for what the club are doing at the minute and did say he would love to play here in the future but he is loving following in his dads footsteps and skippering his home town team.

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What's all this webpage not available lark?

I hope we don't sign him. He's a loose cannon and if he hasn't learned his lesson by now I don't think he ever will.

Spent a great afternoon with Gareth at Fax today, he loved it.

Can we afford him, can he keep his cool, can he change his ways, and will he improve our team? Apart from the first question which I do not know I would say NO to all the others. Great player that he undoubtedly is he would be a liability.

Whether he signs or not it's a sign of how far this clubs come to have such players linked and wanting to join us

Ste I must admit our great Club is rolling in the right direction we played well in appalling conditions and when the Ground gets hard and dry it will be very good to watch, I hope Worthington and Armstrong are not badly injured, but we do have a few yet to return, I look forward to Sunday and the London game , cmon you Leythers.

Fortunately Leigh RLFC expects and demands a certain set of standards from its players both on and off the field. Standards i feel Mr Hock would struggle to understand let alone be able to uphold.

Time will tell, either way whoever the lad signs for give him a chance. He has the talent he just needs a proper coach and one that lasts more than 6 months in a job!!

What a load of rubbish. Gareth Hock has had his fair share of excellent coaches, particularly at Wigan. Despite once upon a time having the potential to be one of the English RL greats, he has a terrible habit of pressing the self-destruct button far to often. It’s a huge shame and a massive waste of his once fantastic talent.

Just take a look at his offences;

July 2008 – Banned for five matches for manhandling referee.
July 2009 – Banned for two-years after testing positive for cocaine.
September 2011 – Banned for five matches for gouging and punching Ben Harrison.
May 2013 – Banned for four matches for making deliberate contact with referee.
October 2013 – Thrown out of Englands World Cup squad on the eve of opening games for several breaches of discipline.
July 2014 – Banned for seven matches for deliberately colliding with referee.
February 2015 – Banned for six matches for reckless use of the knees twice.

Since 2008 his playing record is 110 games played and 102 games banned. Ridiculous stat.

Non of the above includes his recent homophobic tweets which will no doubt land him in even more hot water with the RFL and extend his current ban from Easter to beyond.

I could not see why a club like Leigh would take a huge risk by signing him. Your club doesn’t need him, although I would be happy if you did as I cant wait to see him leave Salford.

Be a top signing for you leythers.

So the majority of his bans come from playing at Salford with coaches that don't last 6 months? One ban at Wigan and a drug charge... Then he left for Widnes... Then took the gold coins from Koucash. No idea whether we sign him or not but if we do I'll bet my life Paul Rowley does a better job on him tha his previous half a dozen coaches!!

I fail to see firstly why we need any more forwards. If we did need one, then the thug that is hock would be the very last player i would sign. I have tweeted similar sentiments also.

No, three separate bans at Wigan (2008, 2009 and 2011), one ban at Widnes (2013) and two at Salford (2014 and 2015). Unfortunately Paul Rowley will not be able to manage what goes on in Gareth Hock’s head, which is the catalyst for all his misdemeanours.

Leigh seem to be building something special, don't wreck it all.

He's one of the best second rowers in the country on his day and I think it's a move we'd have to seriously consider if the opportunity was there.

All the talk seems to be about his disruption off the field - I think his problem is more on it than off it. When was the last time he did something 'disruptive' off the field apart from his drug ban, which he seems to have learned from, and the ill-discipline for England in which he was't the only one.

We seem to have the culture at the minute were we can take these types of players in and make them want to play for us, it could be argued his last two clubs have been somewhat disjointed which probably didn't help him. I have my doubts as to whether financially we'd be able to afford him/fit him under the cap as he must be one of the highest paid players at Salford.

Like I posted earlier on his day G Hock is one of the best second rowers in the World still ..Leigh Centurions have some of the best back.up staff and best coaching staff in UK RL if they did sign him on a free from Salford he would have to prove that he is good enough both on and off the field he wouldn't just walk into a winning team we have other top class players like Dixon waiting for their chance of making the starting 17 experienced players like Dixon in my opinion would be hard to shift once he gets the chance also we have the outstanding Sarsfield to come back into the team another forward seems something we don't seem to need at the moment esp with the great Tom Spencer on his way back to match fitness .....But the bottom line is if the price is right and we are building for a great few years would it not be a great coup to take a chance on a World Class Forward hoping that our family at the Centurions could help Gareth out with his Demons....

I'd imagine Rowley & the coaching staff has better things to do than constantly try to calm a man who goes through last chances like no one's business. While we've certainly done a good job helping some players focus on their rugby if Hock wouldn't calm down for his hometown club at w!g@n and so easily threw away his chance to represent his country with England I really doubt he'd do it after all this time for Leigh.

You must have a death wish then