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| Quote ="bullsfanusa"No better place to watch rugby in the world than Odsal.......
Seriously, the Bulls really are putting together a strong squad and more importantly strong business plan for next year. The new regime have brought excitement back to Odsal and while no fan wants to get relegated I believe that every Bulls fan is looking forward to next season. Personally very confident that the team will do well but going unbeaten is a tough call with some very good teams in Leigh, London, Fev and Fax. Every team will be up for it when playing the Bulls next year......
As far as the fans paying for the team, you are exactly right but the new owners have been very clear from day 1 that they are going to run the club as a business and at least try to break even - this is critical after the debacle of the past few years. The owners have given fans a full time SL level team at a ground where most fans {Bulls fans that is....
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Good luck to Leigh next year and lets hope the top 4 in the Championship can really make it tough for the bottom 4 SL teams.........'"
Great post - the reality is income pays wages and as Harold says 3500 can generate as much as 7000, so is it easier to get the hardcore to pay more or will sufficient numbers back a low priced alternative?
Think we will have a great comp next season
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| Quote ="Nostradamus's lad"
Think we will have a great comp next season'"
I agree, I am more excited than ever about next year. I feel it is going to be a splendid season of Rugby League.
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| Bradford will be much better next season, they've got the time to build the squad and their money worries seem to be sorted now. Don't think anyone will go unbeaten next season though. We'll be much better from going full time as well, the 2nd place money will help Fev who'll be better without a mad owner throwing a mad strop ever other week before walking out. London will also be better than this year with a proper pre-season and time to sign players, also being full time will mean they'll be up there. It's going to be very tight at the top next season.
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| It is a little to early for predictions granted given that player recruitment is far from complete, but I would not be surprised if the 2015 season was to end.
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I would hazard a guess that I will not be to far from the mark.
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| £ 20 to stand and watch Leigh play at Iconic Odsal next year
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| My point exactly
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| Well I'll be paying it. It's one game that you will have to do it. I really don't think that £20 is a lot to watch the quality of RL that I have witnessed this season. Having said that it would have a dramatic effect on our crowds if that was the price at Leigh.
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| They charged £20 this season and would fully expect them to at least be slightly reduced next year. Not that much more than a lot of clubs in these league anyroad, including ourselves.
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| Well its 25% dearer than us and I only got a 2% pay rise. We are not in SL yet.
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| Have we announced admission prices next year ? I would reserve judgement until then. I would imagine we wont be far behind if I am honest.
Afterall we fans all wanted a full time squad this year to give us the best possible shot at it. It therefore needs to be paid for. It does not come cheap even with some prize money thrown in.
The question is are all of our fans prepared to share the burden with the board of assembling an ultra competitive squad?
From the lines of this thread I conclude some are not.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr" in terms of numbers 3,500 season ticket holders @ £280, is no different to 7,000 season ticket holders @ £140 in terms of revenue.'"
What you're not taking into account is all the (significant) ancillary benefits of having a bigger fan base - more programmes, more lottery, more LCTV, more merchandise not to mention a stronger base to attract sponsorship.
If I had to choose between 3500 @ 280 versus 7,000 @ 140 I cannot see a good reason for the former. The only possible reason would be to maintain your branding status as a premium attraction. However, I am not sure that concept particularly applies in RL!
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| I would agree with you, double your fans and maintain revenue.The more people in and watching your Rugby League club is crucial.
However if you only attract 6000 fans @ 140 then what then ? Secondary spend does not really cut it when you are already 15k+ down before a ball is kicked. Season will be almost over before you recoup it in hot dogs.
Just goes to show you need to be absolutely bang on when determining your price point.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Well its 25% dearer than us and I only got a 2% pay rise. We are not in SL yet.'"
or 2% of £100grand is £2grand
25% of £200 is £50
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Have we announced admission prices next year ? I would reserve judgement until then. I would imagine we wont be far behind if I am honest.
Afterall we fans all wanted a full time squad this year to give us the best possible shot at it. It therefore needs to be paid for. It does not come cheap even with some prize money thrown in.
The question is are all of our fans prepared to share the burden with the board of assembling an ultra competitive squad?
From the lines of this thread I conclude some are not.'"
Have you got a problem with people who have less money than you, I don't like your inference. I will make my own choices in life, and it will always be to support our board before Bradfords....and yes I think you should apologise for your crass statement.
I will not build up any debts of my own to help anyone, if I can't afford it I won't pay it
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| I apologise for any offence caused. That was not my intention. I certainly have no problem with anyone who has more money or less money than me.
My point is that comparing our admission prices this year to what other clubs have announced for next year is simply not comparable. The reason being that I would realistically expect an increase to watch Leigh next year. The wider issue is how much of one and will our fans support it given the squad being assembled. I am not sure.
Having re read my post I apologise once more as it did not come across very well.
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| Quote ="Nostradamus's lad"or 2% of £110grand is £2grand
I am on a fixed income' although I never say anything but I am better at maths than you.
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| Quote ="Starbug"£ 20 to stand and watch Leigh play at Iconic Odsal next year
'" I know how to get in there for nowt! Grove shudds. Rooster's Yankee 4.3% Mmm!
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"It is a little to early for predictions granted given that player recruitment is far from complete, but I would not be surprised if the 2015 season was to end.
1) Bradford
2) Leigh (Not far behind)
3) London
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5) Halifax
I would hazard a guess that I will not be to far from the mark.'" Not happy with that but it looks about right.
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| Looks a big squad to try and keep happy!
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| Bradford seem to be assembling a squad that confirms their place as favourites, I think Leigh will be competing with London for second.
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| Quote ="reffy"Bradford seem to be assembling a squad that confirms their place as favourites, I think Leigh will be competing with London for second.'"
Thats fine by me...the more pressure on Bradford to deliver the goods the better!
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| Bradford do seem to be spending a lot of money so I presume they are confident of getting in the Top 4 and then beating a SL team or 2 to go up!
Pressure is all on them which I think will suit Leigh as after this season many would have looked to us as favourites and the added burden that can sometimes bring.
As it is big spending Bradford and London are in front of us so its an underdogs tag for us next season
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| Siejka is terrible, not even championship quality. not a patch on Brierly.
We had him for a few game this season on DR and he was awful. he showed nothing that made us think maybe he will be good if he has more games, in the end we sent him back
looks like quantity over quality for Bradford. Think their fans will get a shock this season. defo wont be the ride in park they think it will be
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| Quote ="fevfan76"Siejka is terrible, not even championship quality. not a patch on Brierly.
We had him for a few game this season on DR and he was awful. he showed nothing that made us think maybe he will be good if he has more games, in the end we sent him back
looks like quantity over quality for Bradford. Think their fans will get a shock this season. defo wont be the ride in park they think it will be'"
I agree !!
If Bradford think they will walk over the top 5 Champioship clubs, they need to think again.
Leigh have a settled squad. In situation like this, that means alot !!
I hope we play them game 1 of the season at the LSV !!
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