Just a bit puzzled, so forgive me if my understanding of the rule book isnt a informed as it should be BUT!

The ball that hit the ground last night for McGuires no try before he kicked it through, is that not what happens when any player does a drop goal attempt??

as I said at the top of this post I'm a bit puzzled!

think ur foot has to make contact with the ball at the same time it hits the ground. or something like that

its deemed as purposefulness if you watch a drop goal there is a deliberate intention the ball gets raised before dropped and also length of time on the ground drop goal normaly hit on bounce a dropped ball will normally just land flat

Didn't see it as I was at Cas, but if he lost control of the ball (dropped it), then kicked it on the half-volley, then it is a knock-on. It is only a drop kick if he purposefully places the ball on his foot at the same time the ball hits the ground.

the one last night was definately a dropped ball and dare i say it good defence by tomkins (prepares to get shot at)

Cheers just couldnt get my head around it thats all.

No problem with the actual decision.

Thought the game was a close one and that it was only made more exciting by not knowing what Terry Albert was gonna do next, shocking ref for me!!

thought uncle Albert had a decent one for him last nigh thought the touch judge was shocking for allowing the forward pass when he was right in line with it

this!

Was a good call from the other touch judge though as Uncle Albert was about to award the final try only until he was told to go upstairs.

swap that round and the touch judge wouldnt of said a thing and wigan get the try gaurenteed lol

Thierry seemed very flustered tbh. Almost gave the McGuire Try before getting the word in ear to check, and even after that he was set up for the Scrum instead of the Handover.

Also missing two knockons in consecutive tackles in the first half.

Not a good performance by Alibert.

TBF with the McGuire incident, I don't think anyone else apart from the lino though that wasn't a try. If there wasn't the video ref there that would have been given 10/10.

They also set up for the scrum because thats what came up on the video refs decision, so it was the video ref who got it wrong, then Alibert realised and corrected it.

Still shocking though.

What baffles me is the fact linesman can miss Carmonts forward pass, then same chap spotting ball touching ground for a split second

i said just before that moment that mcguire would score the winning try for leeds and then that hapened i thought it was a try but on the replay it wasn't any shout that tomkins tackled without the ball as he dropped it??

McGuire had the ball in his hands when Tomkins started the tackle, so he was perfectly allowed to continue the tackle.

Also noticed Stevos momentum rule as bitten the dust this season. Any other year Carmonts pass would have had the Bald One screaming for it.

personally, I thought it was a try.
Try should have been watched at full speed rather than just slowed right right down. That's how the games played. Literally talking fractions of seconds between floor and foot for the ball and I thought the intent was there to kick it.

Doesn't really matter now though.

Even without the sky cameras the try would have been disallowed. The touchjudge stood his ground and indicated that it was a knock on to the referee. At that point the referee went to the video ref, but I agree the pass to Richards looked forward, there seems to have been a lot this season.

Just the same as MELI TO FOSTER AT Millenium.

These things even out over a season

I thought it was a good decision.

correct decision hate to say it tho

Correct call, gutted that I wasted a big cheer in the living room. If that's against us, I want that given as a knock on, without question.

As for the Carmont forward, it was miles forward but I've given up with that now. You get pinged for ones that are marginal and score from ones which are obvious. We've scored from forward passes this season and we will do again, you just almost have to shrug them off, it's part of the game.

That pretty much it. We've suffered from forward passes this year, we've also benefited from them.

Same with Leeds, they've had a couple that were so clearly forward that has won them points this year.