Great display from Williams last night I thought. Has his selection and performance now moved him ahead of Riley? Also with king coming back, we could see him playing outside of Atkins. But just looking at the 4 wingers, is the pecking order now

Monaghan
Evans
Williams
Riley

?

Left wing is probably the most contested position in our team at the moment.

It would appear Riley has a very difficult job getting his place back.

Interesting. I can't make it to the games at the moment so I can't really offer a qualified opinion, apart from the Sky matches. I watched the Saints match last night and listened to Radio Warrington on line and apparently the backline went well, especially Ryan Atkins. It would seem that Riley is on the outside at the moment, but I'm sure it was said on Radio Wartrington last night that Matt King's comeback had been delayed for a couple of weeks as the injury wasn't fully healed.

you have to ask the question, whats going on there with riles, in the pre season talks about best line up on here there was some contention over playing king or riley on the wing, which you can see the argument for, but being top try scorer last year and now being passed over for 2 reserve wingers????

Currently my pecking order of Wingers is......
1st on the team sheet Monas
2nd King
3rd Williams
4th Riley
5th Evans

Obviously this will change during the season depending on form but within 18 months Rhys Evans will move very very swiftly up that order.

Monas
King
Evans
Riley
Williams

If it was me in charge, my pecking order of Wingers is......
1st ALWAYS put Monas first!
2nd Williams
3rd King
4th Evans
5th Riley

Although I think belly has the right shout for what TS is thinking (maybe swap bottom 2)

The reason why me and TS would put Riley so low, I would assume, is because of his defensive frailties (1) and because of his over running his centre (2); both really big mistakes. He can play wonderful at times but I have always been worried of those two reasons with him. I am not saying he only had walk ins last year.

Somebody got ridiculed on here for asking about coach day trips to Perpignan. I suggest that putting Williams ahead of King is even more idiotic.

Got to feel for Riley.

Can see him at Widnes next year.

Don't see why. I'm sure he's a very good value for money squad player to have. He has never been a starting 13 player for me so I don't see what has changed.

Plus he isn't out of contract.

I think its fantastic that there is so much competition for those wing spots, it can only be a good thing for the future.

You just hope that the younger lads remain sensible and don't lose patience if they go 3 or 4 games without getting a game.

Certainly, Riley's slip from regular to almost outsider is an interesting one, but, again, it says more about the rise of our younger players then any negatives to Riley's own game....I'm pretty sure that Riley will re-emerge at some point and do a fine job.

Also, without dragging up the whole Penny thing again, its quite telling that Smith released Penny without seemingly much of a second thought, even though he is obviously happy giving unproven lads a go in the team....It would seem that Penny never really registered with TS as much of a player?

You can't consider Matt King until he's fit

But TS called Kev Penny up for the train on squad back in 07 or was it 06 so he must have seen something

Totally agree. How anybody could even suggest it is beyond me.

On performances so far Williams is ahead of King on performances.

Next week that is the order I would play them in. A pecking order changes (hence the nature of this thread)

If you think playing King in the first team the first week recovering from a career threatening injury, call the men with the straight jackets.

3 of the 5 are actually centres anyway which is slightly weird.

So why is he third in your list? Surely you wouldn't play him ahead of Evans and Riley a week after recovering from a career threatening injury, call the men with the straight jackets. You counteract your own argument.

It's great to have some choice in our backline, Williams performed very well I thought he didn't look out of place, finished his try well.

I think the problem with Riley could be his confidence, a few times I've seen this year he hasn't backed himself and gone down the outside to score, where as the Riley in 09/10 would have blazed down the left flank and scored. Williams did it last night, you need to take your chances in this game.

Admittedly, there is no reason for Riley to be below him (apart from I think he is lacking the skills) but Rhys is ill and I personally think we should ration when we play him. Don't want to damage youth.

If Rhys was well I would play him ahead of King, yes.

So fair?

As I say I am unsure of Riley's place in the team.

Why play someone who is ill for the u20's?

I don't follow.

sorry.

Joel
Williams
Riley
Evans

Ive always been a big fan of Williams and he has never looked out of place. I would rather see Williams in there ahead of Riley in the future. Riley still has more experience than Evans so i would put him ahead. But over the next couple of years Evans could take over Riley however i think Evans is a better centre than winger.

You said Rhys is ill - he played for the u20's today.

Oh I wasn't aware. I apologise. Though he was ill. I heard it from the horses mouth- read a text message. He must have recovered.

i hope ts puts king in at centre when he comes back as he is miles better at centre, plus isnt evans a centre?

Yes... But he is being used as a winger by smith at the moment.