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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"
What's this country coming to, when pish like this is the second item on national news.
=#FF0000There's been plenty of sexist banter before when men/young lads work on production lines, highly populated by women.
It's about time the population of this once great country, grew a pair, and stopped being offended by the slightest remark.
I watched The Big Question yesterday (I know, I need to get out more) and they were debating this. What a load of "pooh". A couples of feminists, getting their knickers in a twist (oops) over nowt. =#FF0000IT HAPPENS BOTH WAYS. I bet there's enough sexist banter in many offices up and down the country, where fellas are on the receiving end.FWIW tho, I'm glad the pair of them are gone. Gray, with his obvious bias to 2 certain North West teams who play in red, and Keys, with his "I know more than you" attitude/delivery to the camera. Can Sky please
make Redknapp & Merson walk the plank with them
I hope they promote Stelling (knowledgable, and with a personality)'"
Truw, but the problem that Sky had was that they had recieved complaints over the comments. If they fail to take any action then SKY will actually be breaking the law. After investigating and reviewing the position SKY deemed it necessary to take the action they took. Like everything, a law will be brought in with the best of intentions but if it is badly drafted then the "innocent banter and chitchat" gets labelled with the same legislation as pure bigotary and sexism etc.
People keep going on about Loose Women on ITV and their anti male comments. If ITV received a genuine complaint over the comments they would have to take some form of action just like SKY HAD to.
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| Quote ="mikej"Truw, but the problem that Sky had was that they had recieved complaints over the comments. If they fail to take any action then SKY will actually be breaking the law. After investigating and reviewing the position SKY deemed it necessary to take the action they took. Like everything, a law will be brought in with the best of intentions but if it is badly drafted then the "innocent banter and chitchat" gets labelled with the same legislation as pure bigotary and sexism etc.
People keep going on about Loose Women on ITV and their anti male comments. If ITV received a genuine complaint over the comments they would have to take some form of action just like SKY HAD to.'"
I'm not doubting your highlighted sentiments mikej, but DID someone actually complain, or, as Keys put it, are there dark forces at work to get rid of them, and the scenes were smuggled out to the general public, so everyone could be appalled.
As to your last comment, mikej, like I said in my text, people need to grow a pair, and stop getting upset over nowt.
p.s. Esther McVey was on that prog ........what a pity she has to open her gob....oh hush me and my sexist overtones
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| letter in the league express today complaining about barrie mcdermott and the comments he makes on tv about his wife on sky games.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"letter in the league express today complaining about barrie mcdermott and the comments he makes on tv about his wife on sky games.'"
unless it's come from Mrs McDermott herself, what's it got to do with anyone else
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"icon_biggrin.gifOH:
unless it's come from Mrs McDermott herself, what's it got to do with anyone else
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What its got to do with anyone else, is that of anyone else complains that the comments are offensive, there is a LEGAL requirement for action to be taken.
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| Quote ="mikej"What its got to do with anyone else, is that of anyone else complains that the comments are offensive, there is a LEGAL requirement for action to be taken.'"
and earlier...
Quote People keep going on about Loose Women on ITV and their anti male comments. If ITV received a genuine complaint over the comments they would have to take some form of action just like SKY HAD to.'"
Which law are you referring to?
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"and earlier...
Which law are you referring to?'"
The Equality Act which came into force at the end of last year. Basically if an organisation is made aware of sexist, racist, homephobic etc comments being made within their "are of control", they must investigate and take whatever action is ncessary. If they fail to take action they can be fine.
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| Quote ="mikej"What its got to do with anyone else, is that of anyone else complains that the comments are offensive, there is a LEGAL requirement for action to be taken.'"
"OHHH, I'm really offended by a throwaway comment, that a second rate summariser has made, on a poorly viewed satellite sports programme, about HIS wife, oohhh , it makes my blood boil!" Honestly, what's it got to do with anyone. NOWT. The people of this country are becoming obsessive with other peoples business.
Are you a legal representative, touting for business, mikej?
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt""OHHH, I'm really offended by a throwaway comment, that a second rate summariser has made, on a poorly viewed satellite sports programme, about HIS wife, oohhh , it makes my blood boil!" Honestly, what's it got to do with anyone. NOWT. The people of this country are becoming obsessive with other peoples business.
Are you a legal representative, touting for business, mikej?'"
Nah. Just somebody that sees this kind of thing in workplaces week in, week out. I sort of agree with your sentiment along the lines of the fact that its stupid but unfrotunately the people that know whats best for us (policticians....yeh right!!!!!) have decreed that basically it could be illegal if somebody ...and it doesnt even have to be the person on the receiving end of the banter....finds it offensive.
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| Quote ="mikej"Nah. Just somebody that sees this kind of thing in workplaces week in, week out. I sort of agree with your sentiment along the lines of the fact that its stupid but unfrotunately the people that know whats best for us (policticians....yeh right!!!!!) have decreed that basically it could be illegal if somebody ...and it doesnt even have to be the person on the receiving end of the banter....finds it offensive.'"
time to decommision every comedy programme ever made then.
Hard to believe our parents/grandparents etc lived through world wars.
"I'm going to sue/see that Herr Hitler loses his job, as I'm offended that his bombs are landing on our houses"
To quote the legendary Alan Partridge ".........this country.........you people"
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"letter in the league express today complaining about barrie mcdermott and the comments he makes on tv about his wife on sky games.'"
Haven't read the letter in question but if I recall correctly, Terry O'Conner often compared his wife's thighs to Hutch Maiava's!
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| Gary Neville to replace Gray as Sky pundit was uttered about this morning.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"Gary Neville to replace Gray as Sky pundit was uttered about this morning.
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Quote Gary Neville
"I can't stand Liverpool, I can't stand Liverpool people, I can't stand anything to do with them."'"
No discrimination there then
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| Even speaking as a ManU fan here. Surely to god there are more suitable candidates than Gary Neville for that role in the world of fußball?
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| Quote ="Wirefan"Even speaking as a ManU fan here. Surely to god there are more suitable candidates than Gary Neville for that role in the world of fußball?'"
ManU
Who would be more suitable than someone who has played at the top of the game for the last 16 years winning all there is to win.
I'm not a big fan of Neville as a person but it's clear he loves the game and. When he was a pundit on ITV a few years back I thought he was OK. He spoke well, made a lot of sense and talked about the games as he saw them, not with the tired old cliché most pundit use.
The only thing he's got going against him is his pro United stance won't go down at all with the ABU nation.
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| Neville is a berk of the highest order
Can you imagine his punditry when ever City or Liverpool are ever broadcast. It doesn't bear thinking about. It certainly wont be objective
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Neville is a berk of the highest order
Can you imagine his punditry when ever City or Liverpool are ever broadcast. It doesn't bear thinking about. It certainly wont be objective'"
He is, but in the past when he has done punditry on TV, he's been OK. The only thing he needs to sort out is any bias for United and against City or Liverpool. He is very much a professional in all that he has achieved in his career so far, so it wouldn't surprise me if he carried this on in whatever he does now he is retired.
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| I don't doubt his ability to converse, bob. He always sounds very articulate when being interviewed, but as for his partiality, NO CHANCE. His HATRED (cos that's what it is) for City and Liverpool is well known, as well as his obvious solidarity to your club, he won't be taken seriously. Unless they put him on when those 3 clubs aren't involved, but I can't see it.
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| Quote ="latchfordbob"ManU
Who would be more suitable than someone who has played at the top of the game for the last 16 years winning all there is to win.
I'm not a big fan of Neville as a person but it's clear he loves the game and. When he was a pundit on ITV a few years back I thought he was OK. He spoke well, made a lot of sense and talked about the games as he saw them, not with the tired old cliché most pundit use.
The only thing he's got going against him is his pro United stance won't go down at all with the ABU nation.'"
Ryan Giggs would be a lot better than Gary Neville. He's a lot more professional in his approach and he's only one of two Manchester United players that I do have plenty of respect for in the way that they conduct themselves on the field and off the field. The other one is Paul Scholes.
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"Ryan Giggs would be a lot better than Gary Neville. He's a lot more professional in his approach and he's only one of two Manchester United players that I do have plenty of respect for in the way that they conduct themselves on the field and off the field. The other one is Paul Scholes.'"
Giggs who's got form for hitting women? I can't stand Neville but I'd have him on before RG. Paul Scholes has always come across as a decent bloke but doesn't exactly exude charisma.
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| Quote ="Yed"type
Edwin van der Sar reveals that no one likes Gary Neville
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Mick McCarthy exposes himself and[u Ian Holloway makes a shameful confession[/u!'"
I'm the biggest media-whore jack-off, you'll ever wish to meet.
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| Quote ="Langer7"Giggs who's got form for hitting women? I can't stand Neville but I'd have him on before RG. Paul Scholes has always come across as a decent bloke but doesn't exactly exude charisma.'"
Are you referring to a one off alleged incident that was never proven or even reported to by the police by a woman who has hardly covered herself in glory over the years.
Not that I'm saying it didn't happen of course or that violence towards women should be tolerated in any way. Just seems an odd thing to bring up.
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