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| Does anyone know what the televised fixture format for the Super 8's will be? As there are only 4 fixtures each week for the top 8 will that mean that most of them are televised? And how many from the middle 8's are likely to be televised?
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| We need Castleford to win at Huddersfield.
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| I hope Leeds & Saints don't run out of steam after their season long chase for the hub cap with improved financial incentives which will not be awarded till round 30 . We need these teams to do us favours till at least round 30.
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| I can see Huddersfield losing 4 games. Leeds and Wire at home, Saints and Wigan away.
If that happens I think we are capable of winning our 3 home games against Hull, Catalans, Wigan and also win away at Cas and Huddersfield.
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| We gave ourselves a shot with yesterdays result ,not only the win but ,putting some points on ,huddersfield couldn't have been happy only putting 10 pts on wakey , 48pts is still a lot to put on quality sides ,this may come down to the Sandow factor and whether he can deliver instantly
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| Quote ="Cutter76"We gave ourselves a shot with yesterdays result ,not only the win but ,putting some points on ,huddersfield couldn't have been happy only putting 10 pts on wakey , 48pts is still a lot to put on quality sides ,this may come down to the Sandow factor and whether he can deliver instantly'"
It is a MAJOR IF, BUT and MAYBE, and possibly beyond us, but, if we look on the bright side that results do go our way elsewhere, and we win our games then the 48 point deficit with Hudd's can be wiped out.
A result like yesterday, but, against Huddersfield, would give us a massive swing of 76 points difference, we'd be reliant upon making up another two league points and they would have the points difference monkey on their back.
First beat Hudd's, ideally by +24 game on, depending upon timing of fixtures get them out of any comfort zone
NTW
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| Beat Hudds by 10 and the difference is down to 28. We need them to lose another game whilst we win. They lose that game by 10, we win ours by 10 and down to 8 points.
If we can put a winning run together and catch them I think we are far more likely to run up one or two larger scores than Huddersfield. Points difference isn't likely to be the problem, it's beating them and then winning one more game than they do (can't totally discount Cas either).
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| 48 points difference isn't really very much if we win 5 out of our 7 games. I'm delighted that we're playing Catalans at home and Hudds are playing them away. Strange that we're now talking about a Top 4 place when only a couple of weeks ago some were discussing the Middle 8's.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"48 points difference isn't really very much if we win 5 out of our 7 games. I'm delighted that we're playing Catalans at home and Hudds are playing them away. Strange that we're now talking about a Top 4 place when only a couple of weeks ago some were discussing the Middle 8's.'"
I've heard it said elsewhere, but catalans could be the key to knackering up the top 4s form. i understand the loading of extra home games for finishing higher, but a bloody trip to catalans isn't much of a reward now is it.
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| Huddersfield have Catalan at home, but face trips to Saints and Wigan.
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| Quote ="Thelonius"Huddersfield have Catalan at home, but face trips to Saints and Wigan.'"
also play leeds at home, who are away at catalan, the scheduling of this will interesting. And the turnarounds.
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"We need Castleford to win at Huddersfield.'"
I would have thought any team but Cas as they are our main rivals so a draw may be a better result for us, but yes, I'd take a Cas win between the two if offered it now.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"I've heard it said elsewhere, but catalans could be the key to knackering up the top 4s form. i understand the loading of extra home games for finishing higher, but a bloody trip to catalans isn't much of a reward now is it.'"
As you mention, depends on the scheduling. You might see Tommy Hodgkinson make another emergency return from retirement to play at Catalans if Saints don't need to win.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"I've heard it said elsewhere, but catalans could be the key to knackering up the top 4s form. i understand the loading of extra home games for finishing higher, but a bloody trip to catalans isn't much of a reward now is it.'"
This seasons super 8s has really produced a battle for 4th place between wire,Hudds, cas, you can more or less say that the top 3 sides Leeds,Saints,Wigan should hold there places, it depends on how hull n cats perform they are 6 n 8 points behind already are they gonna put the effort in or not cos basically they won't make the 4 , imo it's made a very interesting race for 4th spot and should produce some interesting games.
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| All the teams will put effort in. There's no point completely writing your own season off with seven games to go because that will impact on season ticket sales the following year amongst loads of other things. Seven defeats for a team that believes they've avoided relegation but won't make the semis so are playing for nothing won't do them any favours.
I had a look at the Hull board for example and they're hoping for a few wins and finishing fifth or sixth. None of them are saying "it doesn't matter if we lose every game because it's irrelevant"!
In a way it's kind of handy for us that we play the perceived (in terms of current league position) two weakest teams in the Eights at home. If we're going to run up a good score against someone that puts a dent in Huddersfield's 48 point T/G difference advantage then we're more likely to do it at home against the teams that are fifth and sixth. If we were playing them away then it would make it tougher to beat them by a decent margin, while Leeds and Saints will be classed as hard games regardless of where they're played.
Wigan's away form means they are the team from the top three I would have picked to play at home given the choice too, so I'm quite happy at the moment. If we can win our three home games and beat Cas and Hudds I think we'll sneak fourth. If we can get something out of the other two games so much the better. It's important we don't get any hammerings anywhere too. An implosion at Headingley that sees them beat us by twenty points instead of six for example could be the difference if us and Hudds end up level on points.
As things stand every minute really does matter for us right now!
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| Could end up with humble pie right in my gob but would you really back Hudds against: Leeds, Saints, Wigan, even us in the games that really, really matter.
I'll call it now, Hudds will win 2/7 games, wire will win 5/7 games
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| Huddersfield will win more than two games.
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"Huddersfield will win more than two games.'"
If as you say they will win more tha 2 games that puts them on 34 points if as you say wire will win their 3 home games and beat cas n Hudds As in your previous post then wire would achieve 34 points.
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| Which is why I also stated that we need to avoid any hammerings in the games we do lose, and try and rack up a few points somewhere. I can see us closing the four point gap by beating Hudds and winning one game more than they do from the rest. It's hard to see them simply imploding altogether though. They're definitely favourites for the fourth semi spot as things stand but it's not impossible for either us or Cas. I imagine most Hudds fans will see us as the danger too, and of the teams outwith the current top three, Leeds, Saints and Wigan probably regard us as the team they hope doesn't make it come play off time. We're more dangerous than our current points total suggests.
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| I can't see it, I think pies will lose more than Hudds.
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| Does anyone know how the scheduling is done? Is it done in order of finish? I.e list in order like the tables that define who is at home and who is away? Is it random? Is it scheduled for Sky purposes?
That's the key thing now that could go a long way to deciding the table. It will be interesting to see the games before and after the CC final. For the teams in the cup those are big possibilities for a defeat. If Wire got Huddersfield away the week after Wembley it gives the Giants a massive advantage, although not impossible still. Get Catalans at home and you are laughing.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Does anyone know how the scheduling is done? Is it done in order of finish? I.e list in order like the tables that define who is at home and who is away? Is it random? Is it scheduled for Sky purposes?
That's the key thing now that could go a long way to deciding the table. It will be interesting to see the games before and after the CC final. For the teams in the cup those are big possibilities for a defeat. If Wire got Huddersfield away the week after Wembley it gives the Giants a massive advantage, although not impossible still. Get Catalans at home and you are laughing.'"
Don't know, but the full schedule is out on Wednesday.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Does anyone know how the scheduling is done? Is it done in order of finish? I.e list in order like the tables that define who is at home and who is away? Is it random? Is it scheduled for Sky purposes?
That's the key thing now that could go a long way to deciding the table. It will be interesting to see the games before and after the CC final. For the teams in the cup those are big possibilities for a defeat. If Wire got Huddersfield away the week after Wembley it gives the Giants a massive advantage, although not impossible still. Get Catalans at home and you are laughing.'"
I think I'm right in thinking there is a system in place.
Believe there is a thread on it actually.
For us it's, 3rd, 7th and 8th at home. 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th away.
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| Quote ="Sam_arvey"I think I'm right in thinking there is a system in place.
Believe there is a thread on it actually.
For us it's, 3rd, 7th and 8th at home. 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th away.'"
That's the system but not necessarily the schedule and presumably the Huddersfield, Wigan and Hull FC home games will also be influenced by the football season?
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| If my memory serves me right didn't we have Huddersfield the week after Wembley in 2012 and batter them, think the week before is the one we should be more worried about... IF we win Saturday
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