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| if we go for him what about salry cap
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"yes for this season, but we could sign him on a contract for next season couldnt we? iirc we would then have a quota spot or two available also.'"
And get rid of Briers or keep Dobson as a bench warmer? No doubt he's a great player but we've got no room IMO.
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| Quote ="Alfie Langer No2"And get rid of Briers or keep Dobson as a bench warmer? No doubt he's a great player but we've got no room IMO.'"
unfortunately, its a poor situation, as id love to have dobson as a replacement for briers, but the best and probably only way to bring him in would be to let go of lee. shame this isnt happening 12 months down the line.
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| Is he better than Briers for next season?
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| Quote ="Fearnhead Cross"Is he better than Briers for next season?'"
not sure about better, but dobson has the longevity factor on his side as lee is coming to the end of his career, unfortunately.
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| I believe he's only been de-registered to allow Willie Mason to play sooner rather than later as he's currently classed as an overseas player and once they've sorted another passport via his heritage (some distant relation thing) he'll not be an overseas player at which point Dobson will be re-registered!
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| Quote ="howks1030"I believe he's only been de-registered to allow Willie Mason to play sooner rather than later as he's currently classed as an overseas player and once they've sorted another passport via his heritage (some distant relation thing) he'll not be an overseas player at which point Dobson will be re-registered!'"
read the link above, having been de-registered he is now a free agent, and will only be allowed to play for HKR again this season should the RFL say its okay, until then he's fair game.
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| Dobson is a good player but i think we could do considerably better when we eventually look to replace Lee Briers, the replacement for Lee Briers needs to be at least the equivelant quality or better, i don`t see Dobson as equal to Lee Briers.
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| Dobson probably fits into Rovers long term plans far more than Mason does. Unless someone within the administration of the club has made a huge balls up (and not realised the full consequences of deregistering) then I'm sure that Rovers will have some form of agreement with Dobson to prevent him moving on.
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| I know he's injured but still why risk one of your better players, it's not as if there is a shortage of Aussies at HKA
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| Quote ="Big Dave 3"No cheque book required as he is a free agent'"
That IS interesting...
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| Having seen the latest statement by the RFL that KR seem to have agreed a special agreement to re-register Dobson, despite going against the RFL's own rules - should fans of all clubs (obviously except Rovers) not be requesting their club and directly to the RFL that this should not be permitted. The RFL law states that the rule is there to stop clubs stock piling overseas players and then cherry picking who plays on a weekly basis, yet in affect this is what Hull KR are doing. Seems to me they are not bending rules but shattering them - they already took the mickey by getting special dispensation to sign Mason on a Tongan passport (Blocking clubs such as Huddersfield / Salford who had a genuine quota space). Surely registering Mason to the RFL while keeping Dobson's contract should mean Hull KR have exceeded quota regulations and should not have been allowed to go ahead. If they are allowed to get away with this our game will desend into a farce. Why dont Wigan terminate Fieldens contract - sign a prop - Ewan Dowes for example - using Fieldens space on the cap, then simply when Fielden is fit, re-register and send Dowes back. (Fielden then gets paid for painting the chairmans fence while out of the game each month)
Dobson seems to be a topic on most fans forums - each agreeing he's a player that they would like at their club (me included) - what I want to see is each fan and each club not wanting to see Dobson in a KR shirt again this season (as the rules) and our games so called governors enforce the rules they create.
Failing that I urge Hull FC sign Greg inglis because I heard he drank a pint of Guiness once. Apparently he only needs £20,000 a year as his wife as a £300,000 a year cleaning job.
e-mail the RFL, e-mail your clubs - this must be blocked.
Thank you
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| Quote ="gostrider"Having seen the latest statement by the RFL that KR seem to have agreed a special agreement to re-register Dobson, despite going against the RFL's own rules - should fans of all clubs (obviously except Rovers) not be requesting their club and directly to the RFL that this should not be permitted. The RFL law states that the rule is there to stop clubs stock piling overseas players and then cherry picking who plays on a weekly basis, yet in affect this is what Hull KR are doing. Seems to me they are not bending rules but shattering them - they already took the mickey by getting special dispensation to sign Mason on a Tongan passport (Blocking clubs such as Huddersfield / Salford who had a genuine quota space). Surely registering Mason to the RFL while keeping Dobson's contract should mean Hull KR have exceeded quota regulations and should not have been allowed to go ahead. If they are allowed to get away with this our game will desend into a farce. Why dont Wigan terminate Fieldens contract - sign a prop - Ewan Dowes for example - using Fieldens space on the cap, then simply when Fielden is fit, re-register and send Dowes back. (Fielden then gets paid for painting the chairmans fence while out of the game each month)
Dobson seems to be a topic on most fans forums - each agreeing he's a player that they would like at their club (me included) - what I want to see is each fan and each club not wanting to see Dobson in a KR shirt again this season (as the rules) and our games so called governors enforce the rules they create.
Failing that I urge Hull FC sign Greg inglis because I heard he drank a pint of Guiness once. Apparently he only needs £20,000 a year as his wife as a £300,000 a year cleaning job.
e-mail the RFL, e-mail your clubs - this must be blocked.
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Says a fan of "Gateshull Thunder Sharks FC" who once had 16 overseas players on their books.
I love these bitter posts - makes my day!!!
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| Quote ="General Zod."Says a fan of "Gateshull Thunder Sharks FC" who once had 16 overseas players on their books.
I love these bitter posts - makes my day!!!
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What is there to be bitter about? You're an average team who will be knocking around 6th or 7th place come the end of the season.
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| If Dobson is a free agent,then how will go about getting paid.Surely KR arent going to keep paying,if he is no longer registed with them.
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| Quote ="Untouchable"What is there to be bitter about? You're an average team who will be knocking around 6th or 7th place come the end of the season.'"
Now my friend, think before you submit. Look at your post, save it and cone back on here mid September. If we finish 6th or 7th the whole Warrington community will back you in replacing Phil Clarke on Sky. If not, promise you won't darken our board again with trash.
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| Quote ="Warrington Wolf"Now my friend, think before you submit. Look at your post, save it and cone back on here mid September. If we finish 6th or 7th the whole Warrington community will back you in replacing Phil Clarke on Sky. If not, promise you won't darken our board again with trash.
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I think he meant KR not Wire.
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| Quote ="Warrington Wolf"Now my friend, think before you submit. Look at your post, save it and cone back on here mid September. If we finish 6th or 7th the whole Warrington community will back you in replacing Phil Clarke on Sky. If not, promise you won't darken our board again with trash.
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I was referring to Hull fans being bitter about HKR.
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| Quote ="Untouchable"I was referring to Hull fans being bitter about HKR.'"
Like the man with the orthopedic shoe once said " I stand corrected"
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| Quote ="gostrider"Why dont Wigan terminate Fieldens contract - sign a prop - Ewan Dowes for example - using Fieldens space on the cap, then simply when Fielden is fit, re-register and send Dowes back. (Fielden then gets paid for painting the chairmans fence while out of the game each month)
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For a start Dowes is crap so why would they want to do that and secondly didn't Wigan do something similar the other year with Tim Smith and/or Cameron Phelps, they certainly didn't register Karl Pryce as a player during his first year to keep him off the cap when injured.
Why didn't you start your rather boring and tedious "campaign" then?
I'm looking forward to seeing Mason in action. The more big signings and characters Super League can make the more much needed press will be generated.
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| DOBSON is good at a mid-table club like hull rovers,but at wire nope we wil replace briers with a better player not worse,if he was that good how come the raiders just released him half way through the nrl season. dobson not for me.
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| Quote ="Untouchable"What is there to be bitter about? You're an average team who will be knocking around 6th or 7th place come the end of the season.'"
Believe me, you dont live here and have to listen to them every day of the week moaning and spouting rambling drivel in our local papers and radio.
The jealosy and bitterness of some Hull Fc fans Knows no bounds, their obsession with their cross city rivals is becoming embarrasing, what Hull kr have done is within the RL laws and has in fact been implimented previously by other Sl clubs on more than one occasion, as has been stated by the RFL.,
Rimmer stated every super league club has had some special dispensation in the past and KR are no different.
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| Both of those Wigan scenario's are completely different though.
Quote ="Paul Youane" didn't Wigan do something similar the other year with Tim Smith and/or Cameron Phelps
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Yes we did, we de-registered a player who wasn't going to play again that season. Which is completely allowed within the rules, the problem in this Dobson case is that Hull KR intend to re-register him once fit again/Mason's new passport comes through. There is that rule (which has been posted on several forums, but I cba finding it) that states that exact thing.
Quote ="Paul Youane"they certainly didn't register Karl Pryce as a player during his first year to keep him off the cap when injured.
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But we never de-registered him either, he never played for us at all that year, so why would we both registering him in the first place? If you had a player out with a broken leg from before the start of the season, would you register him for the sake of it?
It's not the initially cancellation of Dobsons contract that's the problem (imo anyway), its the fact that they are doing so in the knowledge that they fully intend to put him back on quota as soon as Mason's new passport comes through.
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| If Dobson is de-registered, does that automatically mean he is then available??
Where or when would his contract to HKR come into play??
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| Quote ="Buck Russell"If Dobson is de-registered, does that automatically mean he is then available??
Where or when would his contract to HKR come into play??'"
IAW today's League Express Dobson's contract was terminated to allow this to happen, rather than him just being de-registered, hence I'd assume that he's a "free agent" pending Mason's Tongan passport being sorted out.
I can only assume a deal has been done (in dark smokey rooms with mysterious men passing brown paper bags filled with money*) to keep Dobson "loyal" to HKR during this period.
TBH I'm more than happy to see Mason gracing the SL and HKR aren't the only club to tread the line of rules/sportsmanship in a deal to suit themselves, so good luck to them.
*pure speculation of course
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