Just been told Burgess has said not expecting much next season as it’s a rebuild year. Now if that’s true I’m annoyed. Does that mean some of the signings made this season are just stop gap signings and with the 8 off contract end of next season plans are made for 2026 and it’s just a case of oh well let’s just see how we do in 25.

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ev ... ct-in-2025

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ev ... ct-in-2025

Seems to be a few teams in that position. Saints came out shouting about spending the cap and all the marquee allowances when we dropped to 6th. Instead we've let 4 go and signed 3, only have one centre, no scrumhalf and are at least a prop light. It's as if clubs don't think they can challenge Wigan's dominance next season, so are building for 2026 instead.

Surely he would not write off 33% of his time with us? This doesn't sound like Sam Burgess. Admittedly I am not expecting much then again this is my defence mechanism.

If it was my decision, and I am sure we are all glad it's not...

Jordan Crowther - 2 year extension
Sam Powell - 1 year extension
Connor Wrench - 2 years and he need to break through in that time. Last chance.
Paul Vaughan - 1 year extension, no titty lip or thanks and good luck.
Toby King - 2 year max, lower wages or thanks and good luck. For me he can do one as I prefer pacey centres that can create opportunities.

Rodrick Tai - thanks for the memories, we can improve on this position.
Zane Musgrove - thanks and good luck. Nowhere near worth an overseas quota spot.
Stefan Ratchford - thanks and good luck coaching.

Must admit, it had passed me by (or I had forgotten) that they had changed the rule so that players were free to negotiate with clubs from 1st December. It was May 1st previously.

This could well bring forward players moving on earlier - similar to Yates this year.

Before getting too worked up, how close a friend of SB is your source?

I'm with Wires71 - I really don't believe Burgess would even contemplate a rebuilding phase. There are a few tweaks to make but if I was Burgess I would be really focussing on Leyland and Hayes developing a quality kicking game as adding that to our effort ethic would mask a few other deficiencies.

Who are you listening to & taking notice of?
I know it is out of season but come on.

Who I listen to is of no concern and I don’t take notice of anyone unless it’s actually coming from the horses mouth. If you care to look through my posts I have never claimed to know anything and only post what I’m told but never say it’s true

Oh yes it is the off season you got that right

I don’t buy into this coming season being a transitional year.
We’ve only technically lost one player from the greater of the playing roster, Drinkwater.

Why do you post what you are told even if it's not true? Do you actually believe that Sam said that it would be a transition year?

Why do you reply. Again read my post I said if it’s true I would be annoyed. But I post comments to gauge what others make think. Imagine if we never listened to anyone we would never have opinions on anything but you would like that wouldn’t you. Because all you ever do is come on here having a go at anyone having thoughts or opinions. What I would say is you often disagree/ dislike what me and some of the other posters put on here so why do you bother?

Damn

Out of popcorn.

It sounds like a defence of spreading fake news.

You are now beyond pathetic, in what way is it defending fake news. LTS posts Leigh have offered £180,000 for Vaughan. Fitzpatrick comes out says heard nothing from Parra or his agent so someone is posting fake news or spreading lies. End of day all you are doing is trying to intimidate people because we make comments you don’t like, you do it all the time. A lot of people post what they hear on here and a few claim it to be real, I have never done that and things I know to be true I post in PM to people I get on with on here.

He/she cannot tolerate views they do not agree with and instead of reflecting internally about why that may be, he/she just wants to supress the view. Remember the nonsense of "the parents may be reading". He/she has their favourite targets too, I'm usually one, now it seems you are.

To be fair it is a legitimate query. If it comes from someone who knows SB well then I would be concerned, if it is a bloke (or woman) whose uncle’s dog groomers wife read it on Redvee I would be less concerned.
Not asking for names, just judging whether I should be concerned or if its just a “pearl clutching” exercise.

And it’s fair if it is a legitimate query, but he makes it personal. He never posts giving an opposing opinion he as a go at the poster has Wires71 said.

People are allowed to post what they want whether it be true or as you say pearl clutching. Said it once I don’t post saying it’s true unless I really do know but tbh I leave that to Abe since most trust him.

Well every day is a school day as I've learned that "pearl clutching" is actually a thing. I must admit that when I first read it my mind boggled to the point where I actually winced whilst going into defensive cover mode thinking of possible Lineham-esque attention

I had to check what it was too.

Are you & Wires71 the same person ? You do seem a bit similar & both a bit super sensitive about criticism of your views but splash it about regarding players' abilities & livelihood.

I hope I didn’t cause anything worse than a coffee sinus wash*


*Not a euphemism either!

Firstly no we are not and secondly who are you to talk about sensitivity. Any comment made or here you don’t like you attack the poster. Just me and Wires71 won’t let you get away with it.

Starting to feel I’m going around in circles here but if you came on and gave an opposing opinion to any post you disagreed with then fine but you don’t. And it’s obvious you don’t like it when we have a go back at you. YOU are the only poster we have this with. God help when the season starts again and we critique any players, maybe you should go lay down in a dark room for awhile.

We are the same in that we will always call out your continual attempts at supressing opinions you don't like.

This is the Warrington Wolves RL Fans forum - of course everyone is going to express personal opinions on player abilities and contract extensions (livelihoods if you will).

Criticise my views as much as you like - play the ball and not the man. But, in my opinion, the position of "don't post negatives as his mum may be reading" (yes you did urge this) is indefensible.

I just don't get this entitlement of yours (perhaps you are a millennial or Gen Z?) which gives you the impression you have the right to tell people what they can and cannot post when you are triggered. We have an Acceptable Use Policy for that which is set by the admins - not me, not Karetaker, and not you.

He was accusing Karetaker of deliberately spreading fake news. That's not a query, it's an accusation. Karetaker was just passing on what he heard, he never vouched for it. It's offered "as is" as a rumour and these boards are full of them.

I didn't see the agitator jumping down the throat of the author of the "Vaughan to Leigh" rumour or any of the others we get. It's a personal vendetta with him/her/them.