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| Quote ="21-12"Charnley by a mile, he creates his own chances and has the ability to beat a man and make chances from nothing, look at his try in the CC quarter final against Wire. Riley is a decent finisher but has been blessed playing in the best attacking team in the league outside a quality centre.'"
I wouldn't say by mile, though you are right that Riley is helped by playing in this present Wire set-up.....Riley playing in the Wire side of 10 years ago would be about as effective as Dean Gaskell.
However, in the world of salary cap rugby, Riley is invaluable....Covers several positions and is reliable without being a superstar, which from the wage perspective means he won't ever be a huge strain on the budget.....Conversely, if Charnley turns out to be as good as Wiganers reckon he may do, he will soon be earning big money and taking up a fair portion of their cap.
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| Just from watching on TV, he just needs to be careful Charnley that he doesn't believe his own hype. Against Leeds he was celebrating hugely, daft hair flopping around etc, bit of a jig and all that.
Of course there's nothing wrong with the above, if it's just enthusiasm great, Kevin Penny used to be much the same.
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| as good as Riley has done for us in the games where hes been picked over the last couple of years i still dont think hes in either of our first choice wing spots and if were going off potential then i believe that Rhys Evans will be as good if not better than Charnley. Evans also still has 18 months on Charnley to get better! both players have that step in their game which can change the complexion of the game completely, whereas Riley is just a very good squad player.
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| Quote ="Saville Row"Riley for guts and heart, Charnleys a pre madonna already plus he's an embarrassment in defence.'"
What on gods earth is a pre madonna??
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| Quote ="DANN"What on gods earth is a pre madonna??'"
Cyndi Lauper?
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| Quote ="DANN"What on gods earth is a pre madonna??'"
The immaculate conception before the immaculate conception?
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| Also remember Charley is still only 20, and Riley is 23. As for versatility, Charnley played a lot of his academy RL at centre and played there when he was on loan at HKR. It'll be interesting too see if Wigan try him in that position when King or Roberts are fit. He's certainly the best young winger in the game IMO.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Also remember Charley is still only 20, and Riley is 23. As for versatility, Charnley played a lot of his academy RL at centre and played there when he was on loan at HKR. It'll be interesting too see if Wigan try him in that position when King or Roberts are fit. He's certainly the best young winger in the game IMO.'"
Better than Tom Briscoe? Alright then. Always known you were pretty clueless, but you've reached new levels of stupidity.
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| Quote ="Mark"Better than Tom Briscoe? Alright then.
Always known you were pretty clueless, but you've reached new levels of stupidity.'"
I would say that Charnleys strike rate of 31 tries in 33 Superleage games is better than Briscoes 34 tries from 54 Superleage games in the period from 2010 wouldn't you? and he's younger.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I would say that Charnleys strike rate of 31 tries in 33 Superleage games is better than Briscoes 34 tries from 54 Superleage games in the period from 2010 wouldn't you?'"
That's all the confirmation I need.
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| Tbh I'd also have Charnley over Briscoe. Incidentally both are players who should be in the centres rather than on the wing. Briscoe should have become a top player but Hull have done nothing with him.
However I disagree with Rogue's assessment that Charnley is certainly the best young winger in the game - Jones-Bishop is a more natural winger for me and rapid.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I would say that Charnleys strike rate of 31 tries in 33 Superleage games is better than Briscoes 34 tries from 54 Superleage games in the period from 2010 wouldn't you? and he's younger.'"
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| Not read the thread but would be suprised if anybody picked Riley ahead of charnley. Charnley is a far better player.
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| Quote ="gary numan"Not read the thread but would be suprised if anybody picked Riley ahead of charnley. Charnley is a far better player.'"
Bull.
He's a reasonably better winger.
Charnley is a fullback (Can't catch, read a game or, sometimes, tackle)
Think next time.
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| Yeah. I suppose.
It was a moronic statement though.
It wasn't like it was a foster or charnley question
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| Quote ="jdrocket"Bull.
He's a reasonably better winger.
Charnley is a poop fullback (Can't catch, read a game or, sometimes, tackle)
[iThink next time.[/i'"
Take your own advice.
Watch him play a few matches, then comment.
Why the comment about fullback? Charnley hasn't played there
Just for the record, he can catch, in both defensive, and offensive plays.
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| Quote ="JWarriors"Take your own advice.
Watch him play a few matches, then comment.
Why the comment about fullback? Charnley hasn't played there
Just for the record, he can catch, in both defensive, and offensive plays.'"
Riley is, ostensibly, a fullback.
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| Couldn't give a stiff one
We've got Riley and he scores tries, not interested in willy measuring for the sake of an internet thread.
If he scores the match winner at The Swamp in October, I'll be a happy bunny
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Riley is, ostensibly, a fullback.'"
And Charnley isn't, so it's a stupid argument.
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| Quote ="jdrocket"Yeah. I suppose.
It was a moronic statement though.
It wasn't like it was a foster or charnley question'"
What was a moronic statement? Yours or his? I can't make my mind up.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Couldn't give a stiff one
We've got Riley and he scores tries, not interested in willy measuring for the sake of an internet thread.
If he scores the match winner at The Swamp in October, I'll be a happy bunny'"
I'll go with that. Riley scores tries, he's a good finisher. I don't give a damn about Charnley.
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| Charnley for me....but only just.
Joel or PAAAAAT ?
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