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| The interview on Boots'n'All with Paul Rowley was interesting to watch. He criticised Tony Smith for the way he'd handled the situation, but said Moran had dealt with it in an adult manner.
He also said there was no wrong doing on his behalf and insinuated that MH had contacted Leigh about transferring, as have other Warrington players.
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| Looks like I've missed a bit since being away from Warrington this past weekend......
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"Looks like I've missed a bit since being away from Warrington this past weekend......'"
Have you been to Leigh by any chance, pending changing your username to "Leigh Fanatic III" ?
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"The whole affair smells worse than a Spanish bar's toilet at 6 am
Pluses
We've got £50k for an old man
Minuses
Higham has behaved poorly
Leigh have behaved poorly
The affair has been leaked/drip fed to the media. The media only reports RL when it's bad news/controversy.
The whole thing reminds me of a certain alcoholic scrum half from the 1980's, who's leaving was "engineered" in not the best of circumstances. The only difference being, we were at the top of our game at the time, and the short bottomed lover was key to our fortunes. Higham is a key player, but NOT vital, but a loss to our club, all the same.
And as for giving him a send off, I'll give him the two fingers nearest to my right thumb. A Leighther would still HAVE 3 fingers.
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A player's reputation tarnished, all for sentimentality. Shame, really.'"
Lefty I'm very disappointed with your views on the subject and your views of the Scrum -Half and the way you describe him, is totally wrong by the way.Mickey is a very nice bloke who wanted to finish his career at his home town club, and felt an early release could help us into SL,nowt wrong with that, you may be a SL club but it doesn't give you the right to do whatever you want , in years to come who's to say Chris Hill won't want to return to Leigh?We are a very family orientated club who look after all our players.As for calling us Leighthers you are totally wrong we are Leythers ,LOUD AND PROUD as you will find out in June,see you then.
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| Moz wanted to finish his career with his hometown club but went about it the right way. Majorly disappointed with higham despite 50k being great value
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| Micky said on twitter he left Warrington with a 'heavy heart. Cant have been that heavy to leave us mid season when we have our first choice hooker out injured and a largely untried youngster in Dwyer the only other options. Why could he not have gone at the end of the season? We even gave him a testimonial!
A wonderful player who always gave everything for the shirt, I wish him all the best, however the manner of his departure leaves a sour taste in the mouth.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"My thanks to Mickey for all that he has done for us in the P&B.
Im very disappointed that Mickey is leaving us but fully understand his reasons.
He has to do the very best that he can for himself and his family.
Good Luck to you Mickey and thanks for the great memories.'"
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| He was going to Leigh at the end of the season so don't understand the best for his family bit. Loyalty works both ways - reading between the lines he could've shown us enough to see the season out. Poor.
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"Have you been to Leigh by any chance, pending changing your username to "Leigh Fanatic III" ?'"
Leigh would have been easier, at least I wouldn't have had to contend with the SNP!!
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Lefty I'm very disappointed with your views on the subject and your views of the Scrum -Half and the way you describe him, is totally wrong by the way.Mickey is a very nice bloke who wanted to finish his career at his home town club, and felt an early release could help us into SL,nowt wrong with that, you may be a SL club but it doesn't give you the right to do whatever you want , in years to come who's to say Chris Hill won't want to return to Leigh?We are a very family orientated club who look after all our players.As for calling us Leighthers
you are totally wrong we are Leythers ,LOUD AND PROUD as you will find out in June,see you then.'"
The way that I described our Scrum half of 30 years ago, was the nicest thing I could think to call him. Anything else would've broken the swear filter.
Higham signed a contract. He should've kept to that contract. That bond happens in SL, Championship or wherever. That's the "right" of the contract.
I hope you're happy in Ley, and not Leigh
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| Quote ="Paul2812"The interview on Boots'n'All with Paul Rowley was interesting to watch. He criticised Tony Smith for the way he'd handled the situation, but said Moran had dealt with it in an adult manner.
He also said there was no wrong doing on his behalf and insinuated that MH had contacted Leigh about transferring, as have other Warrington players.'"
Eddie said that Warrington have paid compensation to London for Dwyer who's now back with a extended contract (missed earlier post), there's no show without punch, Clarkey reckons Wire will win on Friday but with all the turmoil within the wire, who knows.
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| I am a little disappointed that he didn't see out his contract with us and how the press report we have handled it. His choice to go and he has to be accountable for that but as a club we seem to be giving a mixed message with Moran apparently handling it well and Smith not. A messy saga but will be yesterday's news tomorrow.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"The way that I described our Scrum half of 30 years ago, was the nicest thing I could think to call him. Anything else would've broken the swear filter.
Higham signed a contract. He should've kept to that contract. That bond happens in SL, Championship or wherever. That's the "right" of the contract.
I hope you're happy in Ley, and not Leigh
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Lefty I'm extremely happy in Leigh or Leyth as some owd us call it,I wouldn't live anywhere else , well unless it was Blackpool of course.I feel so sad you have this opinion of the Legendary man who played at 7 ,I know him very well and he's a true Gentleman,who is always ready to do anything he can for anybody,he has been to watch Leigh around 8 times this season ,BOTH home and away and calls himself an adopted Leyther Yes he likes a pint ,but nowt like you describe.Im sure you must have had a bitter experience with him to be so negative towards him,I attended a game this season with him ,and we went in the Lord Rodney before the game ,he posed for many pics , chatted and signed autographs never refusing anybody.
One last question.?Would you have the same opinion of Gazza or George Best?
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"What was said initially was that mickey, his agent and leigh all cooked up the contract offer, then mickey and agent went to Moran to ask for his release withouth bothering to tell the head of coaching and performance or whatever title Smith has. Lack of courtesy on mickey's behalf.
The cloud aspect as mentioned? Well, Bert apparently saw his booty as he was left out of the grand final team, however ratch was impeccable in the lead up to that after bert got rattled by widnes.
Carvell? difference in opinion over contract lengths? you'd have to say it was the right call based on his lack of form and moving around last year and injuries, sometimes the call is to let them go 12 month early rather than 12 month too long, we've had that with other players.
Kohe-love? found out on teletext. Can't argue with that one.'"
Hodgson wasn't fit for the Grand Final, he hadn't trained for weeks. The week before the GF O'Brien had been training at full-back until Ratchford passed a late fitness test.
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| Dear oh dear, what a mess.
First off, I hope young Dwyer seizes this opportunity and lives up to his undoubted potential, starting this week and culminating in a MoM QF winning performance against Leigh/Ley/Whatever. No hard feelings eh chaps, all's fair in love and war including breaking contracts.
Secondly, I fail to see how any blame can be attributed to Warrington or TS in particular. TS was clearly upset by the way Leigh & HIgham and his agent have engineered the situation and justifiably so. Some of us in the game still enjoy the kind of gentlemanly conduct that seperates us from certain other professional sports, but clearly such morality is on the wane or totally non-existent in certain areas.
Finally, I hope everyone down Hilton Village or whatever you call it these days, will be equally understanding when you fail to gain a place in SL and Ryan Brierley's agent has a chat in his ear when bigger clubs come-a-knocking. Whatever contract has his signature on is as irrelavent as the one Higham has been encouraged to break.
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| So the chain of events go,
Warrington reduce Mickey's contract offer 50% for 2016/1 year deal.
Mickey declines.
Smith takes it personally.
Leigh sign Mickey for 2016/17.
Penky gets injured and is out for the season.
Leigh owner approaches Warrington owner about a possible early release so Warrington can chase other player & Leigh get cover.
Warrington owner agrees.
Smith finds out during training session last week, loses the plot and sends Mickey home infront of all the players.
Mickey asks for meeting with Smith & is made to wait without training until this week. (hence being pulled from CC game)
Appointment made with Smith & Moran Monday
Mickey is a leyther.
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| Quote ="Binosh"Warrington reduce Mickey's contract offer 50% for 2016/1 year deal.'"
RLFans made-up fact of the day.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Lefty I'm extremely happy in Leigh or Leyth as some owd us call it,I wouldn't live anywhere else , well unless it was Blackpool of course.I feel so sad you have this opinion of the Legendary man who played at 7 ,I know him very well and he's a true Gentleman,who is always ready to do anything he can for anybody,he has been to watch Leigh around 8 times this season ,BOTH home and away and calls himself an adopted Leyther
Yes he likes a pint ,but nowt like you describe.Im sure you must have had a bitter experience with him to be so negative towards him,I attended a game this season with him ,and we went in the Lord Rodney before the game ,he posed for many pics , chatted and signed autographs never refusing anybody.
One last question.?Would you have the same opinion of Gazza or George Best?'"
Yes, I have had a bitter experience with him.
He poohed on my club from a great height, whilst we were destroying anyone that came in our path, playingwise.
Gazza's, Best's or poohhouse's alcoholism is of little concern to me.
The "legendary man"? He's obviously not poohed on Ley, then.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"RLFans made-up fact of the day.'"
"made up" & a "fact"
Give me a clue Einstein?
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| Just a thought, but does almost 350 posts about the departure of a 34 year old Mickey Higham, actually highlight how far we have slipped over the last couple of years?
He's been a good servant, but if he is the be all and end all to whether Wire put up a decent showing this season, then things have reached a nadir, which we desperately need to arrest.
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| Don't believe all you hear. Not sure truth will out until the dust settles.
I wouldn't say either side are blame free
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| I'm grateful for all that Mickey has done for us but getting £50,000 for a player who wanted to leave, and will be 35 in September is a great deal.
Higham was sold for £70,000 10 years ago in that Saints -> Bradford -> Wigan deal. And we bought him on a free.
Just think we bought Westwood for £60,000, Briers for £65,000, Nathan Wood £30,000
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Just a thought, but does almost 350 posts about the departure of a 34 year old Mickey Higham, actually highlight how far we have slipped over the last couple of years?
He's been a good servant, but if he is the be all and end all to whether Wire put up a decent showing this season, then things have reached a nadir, which we desperately need to arrest.'"
this whole debacle is no slur on wire. I imagine being a leigh lad, he wanted to finish his career at the club. WHY it had to be now (from our point of view), was probably down to sean penkywicz being out injured for 2/3 months.
only micky knows what made his mind up to leave right now - he could have said 'no' or maybe/yes to the 2016 season.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Dear oh dear, what a mess.
First off, I hope young Dwyer seizes this opportunity and lives up to his undoubted potential, starting this week and culminating in a MoM QF winning performance against Leigh/Ley/Whatever. No hard feelings eh chaps, all's fair in love and war including breaking contracts.
Secondly, I fail to see how any blame can be attributed to Warrington or TS in particular. TS was clearly upset by the way Leigh & HIgham and his agent have engineered the situation and justifiably so. Some of us in the game still enjoy the kind of gentlemanly conduct that seperates us from certain other professional sports, but clearly such morality is on the wane or totally non-existent in certain areas.
Finally, I hope everyone down Hilton Village or whatever you call it these days, will be equally understanding when you fail to gain a place in SL and Ryan Brierley's agent has a chat in his ear when bigger clubs come-a-knocking. Whatever contract has his signature on is as irrelavent as the one Higham has been encouraged to break.'"
To say you hope leigh won't gain a place in super league is the worst thing I've heard on this board. It would be beneficial to the sport if we did surely??. Any fan worth his or her salt knows that leigh have a good following, which can only be good to create money within the game. Just because higham has chose to sign for leigh does not justify a pathetic comment like yours. I respect warrington and it's fan base so the way the above post reads is that you have thrown all ya toys out ya pram you pathetic human being. If leigh don't succeed then we will regroup and give it another shot the season after. Even when referring to leigh you mock us in your post, you need to get a grip.
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| Quote ="Markypants"To say you hope leigh won't gain a place in super league is the worst thing I've heard on this board. It would be beneficial to the sport if we did surely??. Any fan worth his or her salt knows that leigh have a good following, which can only be good to create money within the game. Just because higham has chose to sign for leigh does not justify a pathetic comment like yours. I respect warrington and it's fan base so the way the above post reads is that you have thrown all ya toys out ya pram you pathetic human being. If leigh don't succeed then we will regroup and give it another shot the season after. Even when referring to leigh you mock us in your post, you need to get a grip.'"
Goodness me, loosen your belt a notch, the blood flow to your brain is getting constricted. I don't believe I said I [ihope[/i Leigh don't get a place in SL just that I [ithought[/i they wouldn't. If I wanted to mock Leigh I'd point out that Mickey will soon be packing down with someone for whom evolution is a rumour, and who can't even assault referees on the field of play without getting injured these days.
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