Classic. You put Finch in your SL dream team.

O'Loughlins looked class when he played for England. One of the better players in beaten teams and in 07 probably our best overall forward

Tomkins
Foster
Bridge
Atkins
Briscoe/Hall (I don't rate Hall, but SMac seems to)
Widdop/Myler
Brough
Graham
Roby
Carvell
Westwood
Ellis
Burgess

Robinson
Tomkins/Westerman
Wood
Peacock

Surely Kris Welham is the form centre in SL?

But he's a turnstyle soo

For try scoring maybe, but as a complete centre, he is off the pace of Bridge, Atkins, Reed and Shenton. And sadly, all of them are miles off the pace of GI, Hodges, Kenny-Dowell, Tonga etc.

At least a 'turnstyle' would offer some resistance.

Bridge is the form loose forward in SL.

Am I missing something? Morley isn't in anyone's team !!!!

Has he announced his retirement, and I've missed it, or somet !!!!

Tomkins
Briscoe Yeaman Reed/Shenton Hall/Atkins/Foster (We need a goal kicker)
Widdop Myler/Brough
Morley Roby Graham
Burgess Ellis
Lockers
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Sinfield (interchange 9) Carvell Westwood undecided on the last prop. Mossop is looking good IMO.

Thats the problem we've had with past GB/England teams where a lot of the regular names at international level were picked on name rather than being picked on their current form, the 2 best props in the league in recent times have been Carvell and Graham.

I wouldn't pick Moz on the bench as he's more of a starting prop than an impact prop, you want quicker more agile players to come on from the bench once the initial sting has gone out of the game to take advantage of players not being as fresh as they were at the start, its the same reasons why you wouldn't want to start Ben Westwood from the bench as he's at his best when mixing it with the opposition rather than being an impact player.

Both him and Moz are relentless at what they do and they both do it really well, its just we have a couple of props that are in better form at the min and the England team should be picked on form.

Anyone even thinking of putting Foster in the England team needs to go for lay down..!
Fantastic goal kicker and thats it...

He's got great footwork.

Absolutely brilliant finisher with good footwork too. Has more pace than people give him credit for but certainly doesn't have genuine pace like Briscoe.

Not better as an overall package then the likes of McGilvary & Briscoe who I think are better. Personally, I'd have him over Ryan Hall but I wouldn't pick him for the England team at this stage in his career.

tomkins
hall
bridge
foster
atkins
brough
myler
burgess
roby
graham
westwood
peacock
o'loughlin

robinson
ellis
morley
crabtree

Why aren't people putting Widdop in there? Been fantastic for a side thats near the top in the NRL.

Tomkins
BJB
Bridge
Yeaman
Briscoe
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
Carvell
Westwood
Ellis
O'Loughlin

Lomax (as hooker/half back)
Morley/Mossop (if AM manages to return this year)
Crabtree (he has troubled the Aussies, and although he hasn't been great this year I can't think of any other decent props that would be likely to cause even a little bit of trouble)
Joel Tomkins (offers some utility in the backs as well as being a pretty decent 2nd rower!)

Obviously no burgess as he's injured, and I don't know much about the centre playing in the NRL who qualifies for us.

IMO, the only spots left for consideration are the centre positions, Yeaman is untested and Bridge isn't secured in the side yet.

BJB and Briscoe should be our wingers, two quality young talents. Although BJB is inexperienced, he just seem to have that extra bit of quality than the likes of Hall (imo)

1. Tomkins
2. Briscoe
3. Bridge
4. Atkins
5. Ben Jones-Bishop
6. Widdop
7. Brough
8. Morley
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Ellis
12. Westwood
13. O'Loughlin

14. Carvell
15. Burrow
16. Myler
17. Peacock

I think we can safely say that it does not pick itself.

S Tomkins
Foster(he's won me round in the past couple of months)
Bridge
Reed
Jones Bishop(class act and physically up to it)
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
Peacock(I'd retire him but Morley may not be fit and we need a leader)
Ellis
Westwood
O'Loughlin

Subs
Mossop
Carvell
J Tomkins
Robinson

It's a shame that it looks as though Morley could miss out and Burgess is already ruled out. I'd give Jack Reed a crack as he can't be any worse an option then Shenton. I'm not sure Tom Briscoe is up to the task physically and would go with a couple of bigger men in Foster and Jones Bishop.

I think we should try Jones-Bishop and Watkins on one of the wings. They seem to work well together at Leeds.

Notice how Sinfield is not getting a mention... is that because he isnt as good as current players or is he over-rated? IMO he is a great goalkicker but his form this season hasnt been the best (from what i have seen of Leeds).

Because they realise that he wont be playing alongside Cooper Cronk!!!

Widdop does a job backing up some of the best players in the game he does not control a game from Stand off like Darren Lockyer (ok nobody does it like Lockyer but you get the idea).

Widdop isnt a go to man for the storm He just goes about his job and lets the star players do their stuff. England Need More than that

Read the match reports (or watch the matches!) from when Cronk et al were on Origin duty. Then tell me he only looks good because of who he's playing with.

And seeing as how some people have replaced him with Myler, he's more guilty of that than Widdop!

this Jack Reed stuff is getting out of hand I've seen him a few times now and the first time I didn't know he was English I thought oh dear Brisbane Have a turkey here....

my opinion on him hasnt changed much in the few times Ive seen him he's a grafter but physically he just doesn't look like a Rugby player he reminds me of that Wakey full back from a few years ago, Halfpenny (I think) that amazingly looked so uncomfortable at everything he did but was actually ok.....

and Thats it he's ok

he shouldnt be considered above Bridge Atkins Shenton or Yeaman just because he plays in the NRL lets not forget how much cack we've all had the pleasure of Watching courtsey of the NRL.

It isnt chock full of Greg Inglis's you know.

15 stone Tom Briscoe (described as freakishly strong by many Super League players and coaches) is not up to it physically but 13 stone Jamie Foster, who I have never seen break a tackle, is? I’ve heard it all now

Anyway, back to the England team – with Danny Brough playing stand off yesterday, what chance Brough and Lomax playing together for England? In Widdop, Brough and Lomax we have some very good all round half backs these days... we may not even need to play a loose forward there this year!!