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| Quote ="Alffi_7"I don’t quite buy in to the regard Longstaff is held on here as much as most, but his time out of the side when Currie & Holmes have been so disappointing is strange - there must be more to it surely?
Either way 3 weeks getting some first team experience at Hull will do him no harm.'"
I wouldn't be surprised to see this a permanent move, Pete Riding will be behind this move and it could be the 3rd highly rated youngster to move from Warrington to Hull in the last year.
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| If this turns to a full time deal, it could be the worst of the Powell failures. Cooper is approaching the end, King is on huge money but this is a kid who has shown great promise, plays tough and has 12-14 years in front of him. He’s not a world beater, but in a good system, with the right leadership, there’s no reason he can’t be. Letting him go would be an absolute disgrace, and the fans should get answers as to why. Another ‘bad apple’ whitewash won’t suffice on this.
We need our juniors to have a chance and to feel like they have the faith of the club, or just wrap up the academy now.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Maybe Matt Peet was right after all.
If this turns into a permanent signing, I think the old end of an era Wilderspool scarf will be consigned to the sock drawer and I'll find something else to do.'"
I remember feeling this way when Jonathan Davies went back to union. When a club legend departs it feels like the end of the world but you always end up coming back to Wire.
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| What the hell??
The Emporer surely cannot believe that Currie, Holmes, Davies are a better option than Longstaff, because they have proven that on current form, they are not.
Fed up with seeing Powell walking round with no clothes on whilst thinking he's wearing some sort of magical suit....and fed up with him picking on Dean & Longstaff.
#emporersnewclothes
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| I could be wrong as I’ve tried to erase as much of this season from my mind as possible but didn’t Holmes get suspended for 2 games after Leeds and we won the next two?
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"I could be wrong as I’ve tried to erase as much of this season from my mind as possible but didn’t Holmes get suspended for 2 games after Leeds and we won the next two?'"
One game, I think?
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| Didn’t he get one and then appealed and the RFL did us a favour and made it two? Powell made a ‘frivolous’ appeal - which shows
how much he rates him which in turn really calls Powell’s abilities into question.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Didn’t he get one and then appealed and the RFL did us a favour and made it two? Powell made a ‘frivolous’ appeal - which shows
how much he rates him which in turn really calls Powell’s abilities into question.'"
He did get 2 after an appeal. Unfortunately, he has been so anonymous in every game since, he doesn't even do anything to get himself banned.
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| Quote ="Barbed Wire"If this turns to a full time deal, it could be the worst of the Powell failures. Cooper is approaching the end, King is on huge money but this is a kid who has shown great promise, plays tough and has 12-14 years in front of him. He’s not a world beater, but in a good system, with the right leadership, there’s no reason he can’t be. Letting him go would be an absolute disgrace, and the fans should get answers as to why. Another ‘bad apple’ whitewash won’t suffice on this.
We need our juniors to have a chance and to feel like they have the faith of the club, or just wrap up the academy now.'"
Couldn't agree more..the fact he as 12 years plus left in him the last thing we want to do is give hull a sniff of having him and any other club for that matter
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"He did get 2 after an appeal. Unfortunately, he has been so anonymous in every game since, he doesn't even do anything to get himself banned.'"
If you want to annoy yourself on a Wednesday morning, have a gander at the highlights from Sunday, but before you do, have a guess who you may think which players maybe directly responsible for each try.
The answer may shock you
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| Wake up Powell supporters, the man is dismantling our club.
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| Quote ="Wolf Hall"Wake up Powell supporters, the man is dismantling our club.'"
Shhh. Bad apples, root and branch, cracked egg omelettes, Riley flipping Dean was rubbish April.
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| I think we need to have somebody on loan to balance the cap with recent signings but Dean was needed more to cover halfback injuries. Maybe this loan was the only option on the table?
He surely has to play Dean this week the only halfback pairings that appear to have been alright this season have been the ones with Dean a part of them. Aside from maybe 1 game with Widdop and Williams in the early run. If Williams is fit and Williams is on the last tackle tactical kicking again I'm in the powell out camp, it doesn't work and any coach worth his salt would see that.
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| Quote ="CW8"I think we need to have somebody on loan to balance the cap with recent signings but Dean was needed more to cover halfback injuries. Maybe this loan was the only option on the table?
He surely has to play Dean this week the only halfback pairings that appear to have been alright this season have been the ones with Dean a part of them. Aside from maybe 1 game with Widdop and Williams in the early run. If Williams is fit and Williams is on the last tackle tactical kicking again I'm in the powell out camp, it doesn't work and any coach worth his salt would see that.'"
Nothing suprises me any more, and the half back shirts seem to be some sort of lucky dip at the moment, but I will be [iastonished[/i if Riley is in the 17.
You're more likely to see Powell himself come out of retirement or some sort of Barnstoneworth Utd reunion of Adam Doyle and Rocket Rodwell than Dean getting a chance.
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| Interesting to read the comments on this thread.
Pardon the ironic pun with Longstaff being loaned to Hull..... but what if thing's aren't as black & white as they seem. What if the decision wasn't just Powell's ?
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| Quote ="Paul2812"Interesting to read the comments on this thread.
Pardon the ironic pun with Longstaff being loaned to Hull..... but what if thing's aren't as black & white as they seem. What if the decision wasn't just Powell's ?'"
If that’s the case you will have made Dallasmead’s campaign all the stronger
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| Quote ="Paul2812"Interesting to read the comments on this thread.
Pardon the ironic pun with Longstaff being loaned to Hull..... but what if thing's aren't as black & white as they seem. What if the decision wasn't just Powell's ?'"
Do you mean Longstaff wanted the loan move?
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| Quote ="Kevin Turvey"Do you mean Longstaff wanted the loan move?'"
Ellis loanstaff
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| Quote ="CW8"I think we need to have somebody on loan to balance the cap with recent signings but Dean was needed more to cover halfback injuries. Maybe this loan was the only option on the table?
He surely has to play Dean this week the only halfback pairings that appear to have been alright this season have been the ones with Dean a part of them. Aside from maybe 1 game with Widdop and Williams in the early run. If Williams is fit and Williams is on the last tackle tactical kicking again I'm in the powell out camp, it doesn't work and any coach worth his salt would see that.'"
Surely if balancing the Salary Cap was the issue, then both our currently underperforming 2nd rowers Currie and Holmes are on considerably higher salaries then Longstaff.
We currently have TWO marquee halfbacks, why wasn`t Widdop selected in the halves last week?
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| Quote ="Paul2812"Interesting to read the comments on this thread.
Pardon the ironic pun with Longstaff being loaned to Hull..... but what if thing's aren't as black & white as they seem. What if the decision wasn't just Powell's ?'"
Well if a young player knocks on the door asking for game time, the coach should be encouraging their recent form in the reserves and helping them to fix up any areas for improvement, suggesting that if they can do that they can force out those in-front of them.
Just letting them go out and get romanced by a club when he may feel welcomed does nothing to help him find his way into the first team here.
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| Having watched several reserve team games, there does seem to be a huge gap between 1st and 2nds. So having a good game for the reserves doesn't show much. It would be good for Longstaff if he could get a 1st team game at Hull.
I don't see much wrong with this.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"Having watched several reserve team games, there does seem to be a huge gap between 1st and 2nds. So having a good game for the reserves doesn't show much. It would be good for Longstaff if he could get a 1st team game at Hull.
I don't see much wrong with this.'"
I agree that Longstaff needs 1st team football.
Given the sorry form of both our current 2nd rowers, why hasn`t Powell given him a chance at Warrington?
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"I agree that Longstaff needs 1st team football.
Given the sorry form of both our current 2nd rowers, why hasn`t Powell given him a chance at Warrington?'"
Spot on, as it's the best way to see at first hand whether Longstaff will cut the 'custard', it gives him a reward for his exploits in the reserves, encourages others that there's a pathway, and (quite rightly IMO) gives our current second rowers a well deserved kick up the proverbial and shows that the coach is trying to create a meritocracy.
Win win win win and given our current state makes sense
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| Cut the custard?
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