Maybe we should have 58 points taken from our points for column as well seeing as Harlequins were clearly devasted by injuries in Round 1 and it simply isn't fair for us to have the 2 league points AND 58 points added to our 'for' figure! (btw, how did you get on against 'Quins?) You can only play what is put in front of you.

The only fair way would be to scrap the additional fixture completely.

I agree, but if we keep it I think my idea would be a reasonable compromise.

You're 4 points clear at the top, so really our points difference shouldn't reall be a worry to you. Or are you not too confident Wigan can hold onto a four point lead ?

why are you so concerned with us...

8/10

Can I compromise with you to make the people of Warrington happy? Don't come on our board you drill bit. (boring tool)

We have the best points difference.

You may not care for what he has to say, but there is no need to be rude.

Thank you, but I am quite capable of dealing with that kind of remark.

No.

I think that if you hadn't thrown away a 20-0 point lead against Bradford, and conceded 38 points against Quins, then you will have the best defence in the league.

And IF you had managed to beat the better teams, Wigan, Saints and Leeds then you would have been top. Q.E.D.

I know, but lifes a bitch. At least I've got over it.

That isn't the basis of the topic. It is regarding the meanest defence.

Sorry, you're correct.

Let's wait until the end of the season, but the Magic weekend is a problem that needs addressing in that it could cost a team a top 8 place. In reality we should go back to the top 5 system (if we keep an uneven fixture list) or top of the league as champions if we have a 26 game (home and away) fixture list.

What!?

So its OK to have play offs after a 27 round format, so long as its the top 5 only and not the top 8?




Ahh, worried you'll get knocked out of the play offs too early?

So how's you challenge cup campaign going, the same as last year by any chance!!

well you did`nt beat leeds or you lot would have been going to a semi with us

Yeah you do but its marginal 12 points or so i think.. But the four point gap is the big one for me , i just couldn't understand your concern with the points difference, unless you've seen reason to worry in the last couple of performances ... fwiw i tipped you after your cup exit to finish top quite comfortably, maybe you're not as confident i Dont know.

Catalans were in the top 8 last year, as were Castelford. They ended up playing each other at Murrayfield although both are relatively poor this year. We just got the luck of the draw with Salford. Wigan could have got Catalans.

You'd of laughed in someone's face if they told you 18months/2years ago we'd have the best defence in the league, second, winning ugly. All of them optimize a successful side, its quite something for us wires to get our heads around especially considering we are seen as such a great attacking side and not so defensively, its quite odd and not something we are used to.

I suppose its the mindset of many of us to think cut the errors down, complete the sets, don't offload in our half etc etc as we used to be side that gave easy tries but given the large improvements in our defensive structure, we have a much more secure sense about us. Teams now are having to work for their 4 points, which is easier to take rather than a simple walk in from dummy half. Listening to the radio on Friday night, the amount of times we dropped the ball against Salford, you'd think 'ohh god they're gunna score here, definitely on this set'. But it never materialised, we held out took our chances and got the 2 points which is essential at the moment. Consider 2 years back, 2008 Penny King landerson left edge in tatters, so many easy tries, pushing up and coming out the line, reading the wrong lines so many worries with it. Yet now we don't seem to have those defensive issues that linger in many sides.

So basicly we could all choose the results we liked then discard the results we wern't happy with and anyone could claim the best -defence- attack- nicest looking team whatever

Great ownage.

It's an odd compromise, I'll say that. I don't like the idea of a lob sided schedule, but messing around with points difference as well makes an awkward situation even worse.

Anyway, you got to play Huddersfield, we got to play Salford. We put 60 odd points on them both (albeit one was in the cup game) so even if we had swapped with your mega tough game chances are we would have still had the better points difference.

You're top of the league by 4 points and are pretty much nailed on to stay there. If I was you, I'd just enjoy that rather than worrying that the diamond encrusted gear stick on your ferrari chafes your zebra fur driving gloves.

The fact remains that we have improved massively since last year under Smith. As a number of us suspected, with a good pre-season under our belts & with Smithy getting the culture & ethos right, not only do we have the best defence, but we are an attacking team who entertain the fans.

If anyone has a gripe with that they must be mad!

A slight embellishment to the greater points difference reference (I appreciate this is a tangent) Ourselves and Saints have scored the most tries (96), it is the goal kicking where we have failed to make the 'for' column count. Rectify that and we will be comfortable in both columns.