I'd rather have Tomkins than Myler.

yes a prospect so lets give him a year r two before we say his world class look at a certain Kevin Penny

No i would rather have Gary Wheeler

we are doomed anyone wanna buy my semi final ticket? lol jokein

If Leeds give away as many penalties as they did tonight, they will be hard pressed to win next week.

Does anybody know the second half penalty account in isolation?

Christ on a bike, lets not give wigan all the plaudits..



They have still got a couple of players who could do with goin
slimming world on a tuesday...

Even piggy looked good tonight



There peaking at the right time.

The Wigan defence impressed me, Sam Tomkins is not only a threat with ball in hand but he punches well above his weight in defence, he has an impressive work rate. George Carmont gets bagged a lot on here by certain posters, he`s a solid, reliable performer and took his try well.

Wigan`s intensity in the 2nd half was very good both in attack and defence, Leeds are their own worse enemies when it comes to flirting with the rules and tonight they got rightly penalised for trying to slow Wigan down when they were getting a roll on. Andy Coley made some great yardage and he also put in some decent hits, its a far cry from what Fielden offers Wigan as yet again i thought he was fairly poor and not very effective in this game.

If that same Wigan side from tonight turns up against us in the semi final then we`ll have our work cut out, that sort of intensity in defence is what we need to show against the better sides in SL.

this time of the season usually means leeds start to jitter but unless we turn it on over the next couple of weeks then the wembley jamboree can be put on hold,it may come down to 80 minutes but you have to go into knockout games full of confidence not looking for form,sunday will be a big pointer.

All spot on.

Fielden was awful in a great team effort.

Sam Tomkins is just an exceptional prospect. His defence and more importantly his reading of a game in defence is second to none. He sweeps the ball up like a second fullback time and again.

As for Carmont he's been the best bargain Wigan have had in many a long year. He's such a clever and skillfull player but is tough aswell.

As for the semi it's a whole new ball game. Both sides will reach a level of intensity like Wigan reached tonight and the best side on the day will take the game.

I for one can't wait for it.

If we give Wigan as much posession via penalties as Leeds did tonight we will deserve a monster rinsing.

Why did they just have to find some form [inow[/i? Since Hock was tested positive, everything seems to have clicked for the crust munchers.

Your joking? Idiots whoever think that! Our left wingers have combined to score 33 tries in 25 games this season. Carmont isn't high profile but trust me he sends his wingers in whilst chipping in himself. Superb, superb, superb signing for us that man! Thier was a lot of crowing when you lot signed Matt King but we got a top bargain in Carmont - probably half as cheap an all. Can't praise him highly enough!

I can't believe the criticisms on this thread of Carmont and Tomkins. Having a pop at Piggy is understandable (he is too fat and its ridiculous that Wigan are letting him and Feka carry way too much weight) and I don't think many Wigan fans would leap to Fielden's defence but in Carmont and Tomkins you've picked two players to criticise who would, in reality, strengthen any SL squad. As Leeds found out last night.

Carmont is a hard-working player whose contribution to the Wigan team in defence and attack is vital.

Tomkins is the best prospect Wigan have produced for many years. You'd have to go back to emergence of Robinson and Farrell to find young players who caused as much excitement amongst the Wigan fans. If he fulfils his potential he will be that rare thing - a truly world class British half back.

Anyway, you'll get a closer look at both players in the Semi!

Very impressive Wigan last night, defence was good and Tomkins finally shone against a big team, he needs to get rid of the petulance though. Wigans young guns are leading the way at the minute. I don't the=iink Bentham helped Leeds however as Wigan got some favourable 50/50's, although don't think that had any real bearing on the game.

You've just gave Wigan more credit in 5 mins than you have for us in 3 years.

Wigan were good last night, especially in defence but Leeds were awful. Absolutely awful. They just didn't handle the 'big game' pressure and made poor, panicky decisions throughout, especially when they were ahead and could/should have gained a winning lead. I can't see them playing so poorly 2 weeks on the bounce and certainly not at Headingley. Oh well....

Leeds didn't help Leeds. To give away two penalties in quick succession on your own line takes a special kind of stupid.

Leeds were poor.

If there were more youngsters coming through, British rugby league wouldn't be in the sad state its in at the moment. A great prospect, that I would have at this club in an instant.

Leeds were as good as wigan allowed them to be.

Do you think it's in a bad state ? I might be the minority like, but I don't think it is y'know. I know that the World Cup was crap, or the showing at the World Cup was crap I should say, but there seems to have been reasons for that. In terms of junior development, and kids in SL, I think it's as good as I can remember really, the stars of SL presently, are these kids, nobody is really focusing in too much on overseas guys anymore, the talk is all of juniors.

Top of my head, say you were trying to pick a junior side to pit against an experienced SL XIII, or Overseas or whatever, age limit of 24 say, I might be a bit out with odd age here but bare with me, you'd end up with something like ...

Smith
Hall
Atkins/Wheeler
Shenton
Owen/Ainscough/Penny
Eastmond
Myler/Tomkins
L.Burgess
Moore (?)
S.Burgess
Harrison
J.Tomkins
Westerman

You've not looked at Tom Briscoe, Lawrence, Cudjoe, Ferguson, Welham, Boyle, Ratchford, Adamson, Cooper and god knows how many more, you could go on.

I think it's pretty healthy. I also think the reliance on imports is slowly starting to fade.

Did Wigan decide when Leeds gave away penalties?

Yeah good point, I think my post was somewhat misjudged. The 'sad state' I was referring to was the performance in the World Cup when the team were embarrassed by Australia, beaten twice by NZ and almost humiliated by PNG.

There is definately a lot of good youngsters coming through at the moment as you have pointed out. Hopefully we will get more arriving on the scene who are at the level of Sam Tomkins, who is a top class prospect. It just annoys me to hear fans of this club criticising the very best of the young British talent just because they play for another club, despite them being better than anyone we have coming through.

Richie Myler is coming through.