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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Tony Smith was here for the Leeds game so Lowes was only in charge for 3 games Saints Catalan and Wakey .....
had we lost only the Saints game we would be on 24 points and 5th......( a position I'm sure Cullen had us to once or twice)
since Smith arrived his team has played 18 won 10 and lost 8, its still a bit average isnt it ? and I'm sure Cullen had similarly average stats.....
we are hovering around the play off zone like we used to with Cullen
if Anyone had been on a desert island for the last 12 months suddenly came to a Warrington Game Would they notice any significant difference from the Cullen Years.......?
we still lose to Saints, we still lose to Huddersfield... We still beat Wigan at the HJ. We can still get 60 and 40 points put up us. we can still win high scoring matches like 58-22, and we can still get done at home 6-28 by teams like Cas.....and we still rely on Lee Briers to win games.
I'm happy with tony Smith as coach but League form hasnt been anything to write home about really, its what we are used to .... just ok....
fortunately we have a cup semi on the horizon to add a bit of gloss to the season.....'"
It's one way of looking at it, it isn't mine.
Cullen had probably, five or six off & preseasons to make a difference. He didn't do that, Smith hasn't even had one. I'll judge him next year for that reason, and then become maybe, a bit more sceptical in 2011 if there was no improvement.
I think what we've seen is a change in attitude & desire, an improvement in these. And from his recuitment, we can see that he feels it's not a recruitment thing, there's no big Ins & Outs. He clearly feels it's an off season thing, so we'll see I guess.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Tony Smith was here for the Leeds game so Lowes was only in charge for 3 games Saints Catalan and Wakey .....
had we lost only the Saints game we would be on 24 points and 5th......( a position I'm sure Cullen had us to once or twice)
since Smith arrived his team has played 18 won 10 and lost 8, its still a bit average isnt it ? and I'm sure Cullen had similarly average stats.....
we are hovering around the play off zone like we used to with Cullen
if Anyone had been on a desert island for the last 12 months suddenly came to a Warrington Game Would they notice any significant difference from the Cullen Years.......?
we still lose to Saints, we still lose to Huddersfield... We still beat Wigan at the HJ. We can still get 60 and 40 points put up us. we can still win high scoring matches like 58-22, and we can still get done at home 6-28 by teams like Cas.....and we still rely on Lee Briers to win games.
I'm happy with tony Smith as coach but League form hasnt been anything to write home about really, its what we are used to .... just ok....
fortunately we have a cup semi on the horizon to add a bit of gloss to the season.....'"
Si, to be fair to Tony Smith this is a squad that he mainly inherited, apart from Brian Carney who is short term and Richie Mathers who is a vast inmprovement on Stuart Reardon then its Paul Cullen`s and Jimmy Lowes squad.
I`m expecting mixed results for a fair while yet until he can sort out the pivot positions, the back line needs more quality and pace, we need to add some quality to the back row as well. Our 2 starting props are top drawer, we need at least one more impact prop.
Personally i would replace Jimmy Lowes, ive not seen one thing from him yet that makes me feel comfortable or optimistic with him being our number 2, whilst Tony Smith is the England coach their will be other times where Jimmy Lowes will have to prepare the team whilst Smith is away on internationl duty and that doesn`t fill me with much confidence.
I was a bit suprised though at some of the new contracts he has handed out especially to Briers and Louis Anderson, i expect a bumpy road for quite a while as far as we are concerned.
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| Quote ="MrF"I find it very informative and like to be shown things that I would otherwise not have seen. However, it does sound like he makes it up each week - kick split
I remain convinced though that the other 11 SL coaches (in PC time) always knew that little bit more and he was constantly outcoached - eg. John Kear could beat a PC team if he fielded 13 dustbins with no interchanges.'"
Plastic or metal bins and do they have wheels and do sin bins still apply!!!!
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"6,7,9 and 13 are the Brains trust'"
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| Quote ="tino"Must have been a nightmare for the 8 coaches (inc. John Kear) who finished with their teams below Cull's in 2005
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hardly a nightmare for Kear, he smashed us out of the playoffs Johns and all, he also won the Challenge Cup
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| Quote ="Pumpkin From East Hull"Plastic or metal bins and do they have wheels and do sin bins still apply!!!!
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| Brains trust used be be one of Shawn Mcreas sayings when he was at Saints.
Sculthorp, Cunningham, Long and Martyn.
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| Without Cullen, Boot n All would only be on for 30 mins rather than an hour. Who needs one word when you can use 30 to explain the same thing.
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| How many times did Leeds and Wigan move UPSTREAM from the DH position ???
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| i watched the boots n all tries on the anytime red button last night and Barry Mc lost the plot, he said that "Paul"Riley had played well for us and that Salford were 12-0 up at one stage.
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| Cull said this week that the ball came off the field with a migraine, as we'd scored 9 second half tries, in different areas of the field, from different plays etc.
Brilliant.
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| Quote ="JWP"Cull said this week that the ball came off the field with a migraine, as we'd scored 9 second half tries, in different areas of the field, from different plays etc.
Brilliant.'"
By favourite ever Cullenism was 'from go to whoa'.
I love the man. Still.
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| The highlight was how he couldn't figure out how we beat salford!! Every other team had graphics, mini pendulums etc, but we stumped him!!
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| Quote ="wireontour"Without Cullen, Boot n All would only be on for 30 mins rather than an hour. Who needs one word when you can use 30 to explain the same thing.
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I used to rate Cullen as a true grafter of a player for Warrington.
Unfortunately, his "Analysis" of games is a joke. ANYONE can analyse & comment AFTER the event. He seems a bitter, twisted man & why does he not realise that if he was any good, then he would be still coaching in Superleague ?
His tone of voice is a real turn off, but I honestly believe he thinks people enjoy listening to him Boots N All has gone downhill fast & I will turning off if Cullen is on.
He should spend his time analysing his own team & you can bet Stevo's house on the fact that Cullen will not be the Coach of Widnes when they get back into Superleague.
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| Quote ="harigeorgeson"I used to rate Cullen as a true grafter of a player for Warrington.
Unfortunately, his "Analysis"
of games is a joke. ANYONE can analyse & comment AFTER the event. He seems a bitter, twisted man & why does he not realise that if he was any good, then he would be still coaching in Superleague ?
His tone of voice is a real turn off, but I honestly believe he thinks people enjoy listening to him
Boots N All has gone downhill fast & I will turning off if Cullen is on.
He should spend his time analysing his own team & you can bet Stevo's house on the fact that Cullen will not be the Coach of Widnes when they get back into Superleague.'"
don't really think you should be the person coming on here slagging people off for talking crap, are you?
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| Quote ="harigeorgeson"I used to rate Cullen as a true grafter of a player for Warrington.
Unfortunately, his "Analysis"
of games is a joke. ANYONE can analyse & comment AFTER the event. He seems a bitter, twisted man & why does he not realise that if he was any good, then he would be still coaching in Superleague ?
His tone of voice is a real turn off, but I honestly believe he thinks people enjoy listening to him
Boots N All has gone downhill fast & I will turning off if Cullen is on.
He should spend his time analysing his own team & you can bet Stevo's house on the fact that Cullen will not be the Coach of Widnes when they get back into Superleague.'"
WTF?
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| Quote ="harigeorgeson"I used to rate Cullen as a true grafter of a player for Warrington.
Unfortunately, his "Analysis"
of games is a joke. ANYONE can analyse & comment AFTER the event. He seems a bitter, twisted man & why does he not realise that if he was any good, then he would be still coaching in Superleague ?
His tone of voice is a real turn off, but I honestly believe he thinks people enjoy listening to him
Boots N All has gone downhill fast & I will turning off if Cullen is on.
He should spend his time analysing his own team & you can bet Stevo's house on the fact that Cullen will not be the Coach of Widnes when they get back into Superleague.'"
well if it were`nt him it would be someone else...dont think cull would lose any sleep if did`nt tune in...he`s got more rugby knowledge than you`ll ever have....
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"don't really think you should be the person coming on here slagging people off for talking crap, are you?'"
Not slagging people for talking crap matey - just saying that he states the obvious & is of no benefit to Boots N All. Previous people gave a much more balanced analysis.
Although when Cullen is alongside Offiah, he certainly looks to be an "expert"
Anyway, lets see if Cullen gets to Coach Widnes in Superleague ? Maybe for a few games, then ............ ?
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"WTF?'"
I think he is reffering to Paul Cullen as being a great talker after the event like on Boots N All over his ability to prepare teams before the event as per his failings with us as a coach.
He has a point with some of what he said, ive always viewed Paul Cullen as 101% passionate about the game and the town but his ability was very limited both as a coach and as a player at the top level, its his aggression and passion that got him by as a player and its obviously his silver tongue that got him by as a coach with us for so long as he must have put in some top performances in the board room ala Boots N All to get a new 2 year deal and to stay for as long as he did on the back of constantly under performing and under achieving.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"I think he is reffering to Paul Cullen as being a great talker after the event like on Boots N All over his ability to prepare teams before the event as per his failings with us as a coach.
He has a point with some of what he said, ive always viewed Paul Cullen as 101% passionate about the game and the town but his ability was very limited both as a coach and as a player at the top level, its his aggression and passion that got him by as a player and its obviously his silver tongue that got him by as a coach with us for so long as he must have put in some top performances in the board room ala Boots N All to get a new 2 year deal and to stay for as long as he did on the back of constantly under performing and under achieving.'"
He reminds me a bit of you Rob. Why use one word, when you can use ten thousand, every week to tell us that Clarke is crap.
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| A Stevo commentary one from the Leeds-Wigan match that made me laugh;
'McGuire has just come inside his partner Rob Burrows.'
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| Quote ="JWP"He reminds me a bit of you Rob. Why use one word, when you can use ten thousand, every week to tell us that Clarke is crap.'"
This should be interesting, bounce up the threads where you claim i slate John Clarke every week or is it just your usual made up rubbish.
It will be the latter, more made up garbage thats spouted on this board on a weekly basis by the usual culprits.
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| Quote ="JWP"He reminds me a bit of you Rob. Why use one word, when you can use ten thousand, every week to tell us that Clarke is crap.'"
Some people need ten thousand words to realise what is staring them in the face though*. i.e) Wires71 comments on the suitability of the incumbent coach dated as far back as 2006.
*not that I am saying Clarke is crap however - just limited.
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