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| Quote ="wirecation"Wigan have impressed me lately. I think they could be real grand final contenders. especially since Dodd and now possibly Lomax could be out injured for a while. Most of their squad man for man is probably no better than ours. But they play as a team and have a steely spirit. You notice this when they score a try.
Our team is the complete opposite. Little team spirit. If we were playing today and went behind like Wigan did in the second half we would have caved in.'"
Yes. Their togetherness and organisation is quite striking. Some very effective players though- Farrel showing how to play 2nd row. Tenacious in defence and fast and potent with ball in hand.
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| Thought Saints might have got a cheap penalty for a high shot on Hurrell in the last play of the game, meanwhile the Kenney-Dowell 'try' looked far from conclusive to me - noting it went to the VR as a 'No Try' (not that it would have changed the overall result).
Oh well, all good TV drama !
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| Quote ="shinymcshine241"Thought Saints might have got a cheap penalty for a high shot on Hurrell in the last play of the game, meanwhile the Kenney-Dowell 'try' looked far from conclusive to me - noting it went to the VR as a 'No Try' (not that it would have changed the overall result).
Oh well, all good TV drama !'"
Hardly any drama with the Kenney-Dowell decision, as the game was done and only a few minutes left on the clock. There was no real need for the VR, and Moore should just have backed his own judgement to stop unnecessarily extending the game waiting for someone else to make the call.
I was surprised that the tackle on Hurrell was not penalised, too.
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| Quote ="shinymcshine241"Thought Saints might have got a cheap penalty for a high shot on Hurrell in the last play of the game, meanwhile the Kenney-Dowell 'try' looked far from conclusive to me - noting it went to the VR as a 'No Try' (not that it would have changed the overall result).
Oh well, all good TV drama !'"
You have gone and done it now.
The Sad one will be on here shortly, saying it was a conspiracy to prevent St Helens from winning a certain treble and that they were robbed.
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| I can't wait until someone puts up a transcript of Eamon's next programme notes !!
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| Thought Hill had a great game for Hudds yesterday and that it was a very good team performance from them, albeit against a HKR side who mainly just ran around like headless chickens!
Hill's delight at the end of the match great to see, even though it only proved again what Wire are missing by not keeping hold of him.
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| Quote ="Mr Snoodle"Thought Hill had a great game for Hudds yesterday and that it was a very good team performance from them, albeit against a HKR side who mainly just ran around like headless chickens!
Hill's delight at the end of the match great to see, even though it only proved again what Wire are missing by not keeping hold of him.'"
I am afraid that Wigan look very good and that Hill will be on for his 7th losing final appearance. That must be some sort of record.
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| I think Leon Pryce lost 6 Grand Finals and a Challenge Cup. He also won 4 Grand Finals and 5 Challenge Cups.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"I think Leon Pryce lost 6 Grand Finals and a Challenge Cup. He also won 4 Grand Finals and 5 Challenge Cups.'"
Actually Chris Hill played in CCF 2012 just not as captain so not as bad. 2 wins from 8.
2012 CCF - Won
2012 GF - Lost
2013 GF - Lost
2016 CCF - Lost
2016 GF - Lost
2018 CCF - Lost
2018 GF - Lost
2019 CCF - Won
2022 CCF - ???
Chris Hill P8 W2 L6
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| At least Hill will get to play in a final this year!!
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| At least Hill will get to play in a final this year!!
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| Quote ="Boss Hog"You have gone and done it now.
The Sad one will be on here shortly, saying it was a conspiracy to prevent St Helens from winning a certain treble and that they were robbed.'"
No, no issues with the refereeing. We just tied ourselves in knots trying to resolve the Lomax issue and the disruption cost us first half. Once Woolf got them in we were always going to come back at them and we did very successfully and it was very one sided second half. But then we threw a stupid pass and blew it. These things happen. Credit to Wigan for being clinical and taking the chances we gave them. Still plenty of hope for this season if we can come up with a solution in the halves. I'd play Bell and Moss myself if Lomax isn't going to be fit, but I suspect we'll try to keep him in there. Having Grace and Hopoate back would help as well.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"No, no issues with the refereeing. We just tied ourselves in knots trying to resolve the Lomax issue and the disruption cost us first half. Once Woolf got them in we were always going to come back at them and we did very successfully and it was very one sided second half. But then we threw a stupid pass and blew it. These things happen. Credit to Wigan for being clinical and taking the chances we gave them. Still plenty of hope for this season if we can come up with a solution in the halves. I'd play Bell and Moss myself if Lomax isn't going to be fit, but I suspect we'll try to keep him in there. Having Grace and Hopoate back would help as well.'"
One sided? It was even stevens for the first 7 minutes until Marshall gifted you an opportunity to get back in the game. You then had a golden 10 minute spell and took the lead with 20 minutes still to go. It took us half that to regain the lead after which there was only one winner. In fact, a Johnny Lomax shirt grab on Field and a dropped ball from Bibby off the Farrell break were the only things that stopped us making it a more comfortable win! That's before we even get to the 4 points that went begging from missed kicks.
Congratulations on your excellent 10 minute spell. But let's face it; no matter how well you manage to convince yourself that the 2nd half was one sided it will never be more one sided than the 1st! Well done on your cup final appearance....oh! Wait a minute...
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| Another gang war seems to be breaking out on our turf . . .
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| Quote ="Saddened!"No, no issues with the refereeing. We just tied ourselves in knots trying to resolve the Lomax issue and the disruption cost us first half. Once Woolf got them in we were always going to come back at them and we did very successfully and it was very one sided second half. But then we threw a stupid pass and blew it. These things happen. Credit to Wigan for being clinical and taking the chances we gave them. Still plenty of hope for this season if we can come up with a solution in the halves. I'd play Bell and Moss myself if Lomax isn't going to be fit, but I suspect we'll try to keep him in there. Having Grace and Hopoate back would help as well.'"
Hey Saddened, are you the same Saddened that said on evee that we got 'very lucky'? How so?
This should be good.
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| Quote ="Pie_Eyter"Hey Saddened, are you the same Saddened that said on evee that we got 'very lucky'? How so?
This should be good.'"
Not on this board it won't be take your Wigan Saints banter elsewhere
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Not on this board it won't be take your Wigan Saints banter elsewhere'"
I admire your restraint in the use of the word “banter” UR
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| Like I said on another thread.
I don’t throw stones at Saddened.
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| i think Matty Lees may be worried about the disciplinary meeting…
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"i think Matty Lees may be worried about the disciplinary meeting…'"
Morgan Knowles as well.
Would the 2 of those not seen cards earlier in the season?
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| the ploy of being deliberately off side at scrums needs a card at some point.
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| Nothing wrong with Matty Lees one. Just what Sita used to do.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"the ploy of being deliberately off side at scrums needs a card at some point.'"
Catalans had someone binned a few week ago for it
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| How is that not the same as the penalty in the first half
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| Contact from welsby in the air as well
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