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| That's it then, cancelled the hotel for Wembley kicked the dog and stabbed the cat, nothing down for us with that trio.
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| Silverwood going for the hat trick then
Screwed us the last 2 years
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| Oh look... we have yet another big game being refereed by that ego maniac with a big chip on his shoulder. Terrific.
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| Quote ="RoyalWire"Silverwood going for the hat trick then
Screwed us the last 2 years'"
was bentham last year..
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| Could someone please tell me who refereed our games in the 2010 QF, SF and Final, and also 2012 SF and Final. I suffer amnesia on Tuesdays, and it seems other posters suffer from paranoia on the same day.
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| No problem with silverwood. If we play to our potential then the ref is irrelevant and I've always found Bentham slightly lenient towards us if I'm honest.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"No problem with silverwood. If we play to our potential then the ref is irrelevant and I've always found Bentham slightly lenient towards us if I'm honest.'"
Quite correct, ratti
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| Silverwood is only a major problem against Saints; he's obsessed with them.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Could someone please tell me who refereed our games in the 2010 QF, SF and Final, and also 2012 SF and Final. I suffer amnesia on Tuesdays, and it seems other posters suffer from paranoia on the same day.'"
Have a look at our W/L record over the past couple of seasons with him in charge.
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| Quote ="just_browny"Silverwood is only a major problem against Saints; he's obsessed with them.'"
well said..but it seems he has a dislike for warrington..i.e ben currie
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| Quote ="mark_m"Have a look at our W/L record over the past couple of seasons with him in charge.'"
Might have something to do with we might have been 5h1te, the days we've lost. It does happen.
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| I think Silverwood is okay, it's Child who's the bad one.
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| Quote ="just_browny"Silverwood is only a major problem against Saints; he's obsessed with them.'"
Absolutely this
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| Quote ="karetaker"That's it then, cancelled the hotel for Wembley kicked the dog and stabbed the cat, nothing down for us with that trio.'"
Go the hole hogg and shoot the cat and the dig
Regards , EW
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"No problem with silverwood. If we play to our potential then the ref is irrelevant and I've always found Bentham slightly lenient towards us if I'm honest.'"
Really? I must have missed that game where Bentham reffed us against Saints and gave us nothing.
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| If that's the axis of evil and unholy trio, who do we want to officiate then?
I'm sure I recall us walloping Leeds with Silverwood in charge?
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| Quote ="Snaggletooth"If that's the axis of evil and unholy trio, who do we want to officiate then?
I'm sure I recall us walloping Leeds with Silverwood in charge?'"
Don't say that, Snaggle. It doesn't fit in with the "agenda"
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Don't say that, Snaggle. It doesn't fit in with the "agenda"'"
Winning games WITH Silverwood in CHARGE doesn't PROVE other WISE. A couple of years ago at Saints first half we were well on top until OUR boy marched US back an Saints all of a sudden were in the GAME although we still WON
BTW I don't think that there is an "agenda" just opinion Didn't you have one OR two things to SAY regarding the GOOD old days when Billy Thompson was in CHARGE?
What makes you think life is so much different now, apart from the price of 20 John Player No 6 and a pint of sterra?
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| As I've said COUNTLESS times before, we don't know we're born with today's refs.
Yes, they are poor. Very poor, at times. But they can't get away with plain and utter bias. Unlike the days of Thompson, Kershaw, Smith, Lindop, Whitfield et al, who were just bent. These days, we get 70+ club games shown live each season, as well as highlights of the rest of the games, shown on two magazine programmes. Compare this with the days of the above "refs", when we barely had a handful of "full" live games per season, and no magazine programmes. Today's refs can't "get away" with the level of bias shown previously.
Silverwood is a prat. We all know that. He's an attention seeking "ladies pocket", who may have favourite teams. But is he in the same league as the vermin of the late 70's and 80's? NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"As I've said COUNTLESS times before, we don't know we're born with today's refs.
Yes, they are poor. Very poor, at times. But they can't get away with plain and utter bias. Unlike the days of Thompson, Kershaw, Smith, Lindop, Whitfield et al, who were just bent. These days, we get 70+ club games shown live each season, as well as highlights of the rest of the games, shown on two magazine programmes. Compare this with the days of the above "refs", when we barely had a handful of "full" live games per season, and no magazine programmes. Today's refs can't "get away" with the level of bias shown previously.
Silverwood is a prat. We all know that. He's an attention seeking "ladies pocket", who may have favourite teams. But is he in the same league as the vermin of the late 70's and 80's? NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS.'"
GOOD post I AGREE and so do many OTHERS. I also AGREED with Just Browny (and I appreciate that we are playing HKR not Saints) that SILVERWOOD does seem to FAVOUR Saints. These two principles aren't mutually EXCLUSIVE and surely the latter doesn't constitute an AGENDA?
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| Looking at some of the early posts on this thread, Rico, I'd dare say some posters do think there's an agenda against us.
Silverwood has "ref'd" several huge games involving us, that we've won.
Just to throw the proverbial cat amongst the pigeons, though. Does anyone remember the CC game between Stains and Hull (at Stains) about 8 years ago. Hull were well in front in the early stages of the second half, and looked very good for it, and the mic that Silverwood was wearing could be heard in general play (normally, you could only hear it for replays). "What's the current penalty count" he was heard to say, and lo and behold, he absolutely caned Hull with penalties, which saw Stains get back to back tries, and then take the momentum of the game. Why did he need to know what the penalty count was. Surely, a penalty is a penalty, regardless of who's had more.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Looking at some of the early posts on this thread, Rico, I'd dare say some posters do think there's an agenda against us.
Silverwood has "ref'd" several huge games involving us, that we've won.
Just to throw the proverbial cat amongst the pigeons, though. Does anyone remember the CC game between Stains and Hull (at Stains) about 8 years ago. Hull were well in front in the early stages of the second half, and looked very good for it, and the mic that Silverwood was wearing could be heard in general play (normally, you could only hear it for replays). "What's the current penalty count" he was heard to say, and lo and behold, he absolutely caned Hull with penalties, which saw Stains get back to back tries, and then take the momentum of the game. Why did he need to know what the penalty count was. Surely, a penalty is a penalty, regardless of who's had more.'"
We seem to be agreeing Lefty I don't think that Silverwood is anti Wire particularly, but, I do get the feeling that he is pro Saints and any victories against them where he is officiating are in spite of him.
You would hope that officials have a neutral impact on results whilst accepting that they may on occasion make a genuine mistake, you know the ones that even themselves up over a season, the rub of the green. As we aren't playing Saints this weekend let's hope we get it
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| The worst thing about the officials is you can bet Tony Smith has to take into consideration who is in charge when putting together our gameplan.
And he has said so in the past.
No consistency whatsoever.
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