I'm happy we have so many off contract, means we can get rid of a big chunk of dead wood and replace with better players if possible. Cooper and Mulhern need to be retained, i'd keep Ratchford and Matt Davis for ulility purposes and Riley Dean that's it.

All great conjecture, but equally as important as getting people OUT is getting the right people IN. Would anyone trust KissKam to do a decent job on that front? Past evidence doesn’t inspire confidence….

All great conjecture, but equally as important as getting people OUT is getting the right people IN. Would anyone trust KissKam to do a decent job on that front? Past evidence doesn’t inspire confidence….

Absolutely not, our track record since he has been involved as ceo is shambolic, we can only hope that Powell has the choices.

Powell is in charge of signings, hence Holmes, matautia and minikin coming in. Any more like that for next season and he'll be losing the fans backing.

Partially true mate, Matautia has looked lively, Minikin can’t judge yet but certainly agree on Holmes. Looks physically goosed sadly.

That’s fine, the probably being that if you pay someone off in Year X then that payment counts towards the salary cap for Year X. So ok, you’ve got someone out of the door that you don’t want but you don’t have cap space to bring in a decent replacement.

I'm fairly sure that's not true. The salary cap is measured in ‘real time’ so the cap is the amount you are paying players at any one time. As long as it's always under a £2.1m annual amount, you're okay.

That's how we were able to sign Williams last season as we had dumped Inglis' contract.

Can a contract be terminated with a seperate compromise agreement and a player be de-registered like Inglis?

I guess we are talking about King and Philbin here? I'd ship both out to Leigh with subsidised wages and let them battle to gain a 1st team place.

Powell needs to show that he is in charge and loaning at least 1 player out would demonstrate that.

The problem for him though, is that on current form Oliver Holmes should be one of those loaned out.

Neither would get in Leighs team.

Must admit, I've not been enamoured with holmes, I wasn't best please when it was announced, him and massey have been previously massive bug bears of mine, baz n tez on sky overrating anyone that's average in a lesser team. He was never a player I was concerned about when playing them, he seemed a bit jack hughes

Holmes was a player I, like many, took little notice of at Cas but I took more of an interest in after he signed and I was suprised - he looked like a robust defender, great engine and liable to bust a tackle.

Then he blubbed on his Cas exit like a 5 year old on his first day at big school and he's been shocking since. Matutia played well in the halves but probably only as he had less scope for spinning like a top and inducing confusion in everyone bar the defence.

Said it before, having wealthy owners and blank cheques isn't always a plus - you get lazy, flippant and careless with your signings.

Yes ...there is definitely something in this but I reckon all things considered I'm sure almost everyone supporting a club would be grateful, thankful and relieved about extra financial help. No one, really thinks we'd be better without it.

I'm just glad that my career in engineering wasn't a spectator sport. Could you imagine what its like to have your livelihood discussed on a public forum?

Yes professional sport is a tough place. It's balanced by plaudits, acclaim, and salaries beyond normal people's reaches. It is also not compulsory to partake in.

I see your point but the vast majority are very nice blokes, who should be treated with respect, who love rugby (and are pretty good at it). When I hear abuse being thrown, by some who just haven't a clue, it just isn't right.

No it's not, abuse is not on, never is.

Discussing a players ability and contribution to the side, contract etc on an open forum dedicated to rugby league discourse is perfectly reasonable.

That is the whole point of this discussion forum.

Don`t recall ever reading anything on here regarding players, that I would classify as abuse.

Yes, there are criticisms of players, but all comments are moderated if necessary, and the views encompassed in this particular forum cover a very wide spectrum.

Absolutely. Our forum is a model for others to follow. Total empathy ... unless we lose, miss a tackle, drop a ball, pick wrong team (I'm joking btw)

Not just limited to the forum. Plenty of boos at the Wigan game. Especially when Bevan French evaded 5 tackles from behind their try line.

That was very noticeable watching the SKY coverage.

If you have ever been side-stepped and left grasping air you wouldn't think booing is even a little bit useful. It says a lot about those who boo though.

Quote ="Smiffy27"If you have ever been side-stepped and left grasping air you wouldn't think booing is even a little bit useful. It says a lot about those who boo.'" I didn't attend the game. For me I think the boos were a simple expression of "this isn't good enough" which those paying spectators have the right to do but you think it means more - so what does it say about those who boo? The chase was pretty poor to be fair (save for Cooper who got back) https://www.facebook.com/rlsuperleague/ ... 118086357/

Quote ="Smiffy27"If you have ever been side-stepped and left grasping air you wouldn't think booing is even a little bit useful. It says a lot about those who boo.'" I didn't attend the game. For me I think the boos were a simple expression of "this isn't good enough" which those paying spectators have the right to do but you think it means more - so what does it say about those who boo? The chase was pretty poor to be fair (save for Cooper who got back) https://www.facebook.com/rlsuperleague/ ... 118086357/

Quote ="Wires71"I didn't attend the game. For me I think the boos were a simple expression of "this isn't good enough" which those paying spectators have the right to do but you think it means more - so what does it say about those who boo? The chase was pretty poor to be fair (save for Cooper who got back) https://www.facebook.com/rlsuperleague/ ... 118086357/'" Only saw this incident live, and hadn`t realised until I watched your video, how far Cooper had run to chase down French. His effort to prevent the try, puts his team mates` to shame.

Quote ="Wires71"I didn't attend the game. For me I think the boos were a simple expression of "this isn't good enough" which those paying spectators have the right to do but you think it means more - so what does it say about those who boo? The chase was pretty poor to be fair (save for Cooper who got back) https://www.facebook.com/rlsuperleague/ ... 118086357/'" Only saw this incident live, and hadn`t realised until I watched your video, how far Cooper had run to chase down French. His effort to prevent the try, puts his team mates` to shame.