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| I watched the second half of the Toulouse game and Ormsby was poor for me, shot out of the line a few times and just got bulldozed by Minga who was a beast tbf.
I was disappointed with KR as I expected a much tougher game, Campese was anonymous, the forwards left a lot to be desired and the hooker was useless. I dont think Sio touched the ball as far as I could make out and Dixon was probably their best player and all he did was defend.
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| Quote ="ALNH"Felt for Russell. Accidental knock to face & obviously in discomfort again ~ 4 months on !
All caused by Widnes cheap stot T***er who could of pulled out.'"
Still wasn't a penalty though...
The one thing I would say about Penny is, although I'd like to see him in against Salford and Hull it probably isn't a very good idea to put him in v St. George. He has improved but there are still defensive frailties and we'd be better off bringing Bridgey back in for then if he's fit.
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| Kevin Penny has never had a good word from some on here, they'd much rather have Ormsby who, to date has yet to beat a man in his Superleague career.
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| BBHO I'd have Penny in at a heartbeat. All he needs is a guy inside him who can put in a sweet pass. Unfortunately that isn't Atkins.
Penny outside Wheeler would be awesome imo.
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| So impressed by the character of penny not many would have took the knocks he has and patiently waited for his second chance.
Yes there will always be fans who are defence experts and analyse his every movement while they will gladly ignore joels similar defensive frailties. With penny and joel we have too opposite styles of winger, but both score tries. I'm really looking forward to watching penny this season.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"BBHO I'd have Penny in at a heartbeat. All he needs is a guy inside him who can put in a sweet pass. Unfortunately that isn't Atkins.
Penny outside Wheeler would be awesome imo.'"
How about Matt King as his centre?
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| Don't know about Matt but I would draft Toby in and move Atkins out.
His time as a 3/4 is coming to an end if not sooner than later.
Move him into back row like Westwood, Cullen and Roberts did when their pace and passing became slightly suspect.
A move into the forwards could prolong his career by another 5 years too.
No team wants a slowing centre unless they have other attributes to offset it, like sidesteps, vision and quality passing. Unfortunately none of these are a forte of Ryan.
I await the backlash.
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| I like the idea of backs moving into the forwards. We are currently short of depth in the second row. It's not much of a move from say left centre to left second row.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Don't know about Matt but I would draft Toby in and move Atkins out.
His time as a 3/4 is coming to an end if not sooner than later.
Move him into back row like Westwood, Cullen and Roberts did when their pace and passing became slightly suspect.
A move into the forwards could prolong his career by another 5 years too.
No team wants a slowing centre unless they have other attributes to offset it, like sidesteps, vision and quality passing. Unfortunately none of these are a forte of Ryan.
I await the backlash.'"
Atkins certainly has the vision to spot the chance to knock seven bells out of someone!
Did it again v KR and it saved us more than once last year! He stays in for me.
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| I quite liked what we did bringing Higham on at Loose(?) so we had Higham, Clark, GOB, Myler & Ratch all on the pitch. Throw in Bridge and that's a lot of skill & versatility in the side.
I'm impressed with Myler too, him and GOB have formed quite the pairing.
GOB especially played well, his vision was great and kicking was spot on for the most part.
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| Quote ="Vespid_Wire"Atkins certainly has the vision to spot the chance to knock seven bells out of someone!
Did it again v KR and it saved us more than once last year! He stays in for me.'"
That says forward not 3/4 to me VW
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"So impressed by the character of penny not many would have took the knocks he has and patiently waited for his second chance.
Yes there will always be fans who are defence experts and analyse his every movement while they will gladly ignore joels similar defensive frailties. With penny and joel we have too opposite styles of winger, but both score tries. I'm really looking forward to watching penny this season.'"
I don't post on here that much these days due to various reasons with one of them being quite often when I'm provoked enough to be bothered to respond to something I find that you have already posted pretty much what I was going to say.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Don't know about Matt but I would draft Toby in and move Atkins out.
His time as a 3/4 is coming to an end if not sooner than later.
Move him into back row like Westwood, Cullen and Roberts did when their pace and passing became slightly suspect.
A move into the forwards could prolong his career by another 5 years too.
No team wants a slowing centre unless they have other attributes to offset it, like sidesteps, vision and quality passing. Unfortunately none of these are a forte of Ryan.
I await the backlash.'"
I totally agree with this rd. His rl skills are more suited to second row as never had a great handoff or step
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| The difference between a back and a forward is more one of psychology than physicality.
You see a lot of small players playing like forwards and vice versa.
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| Seems Smith expects Penny to perform this year, should be a good read on Monday, really made up for the lad:
Aaron Bower @AaronBower 11m11 minutes ago
Got a piece with Tony Smith on Kevin Penny in Monday's paper. Expecting him to be an impressive performer for Warrington in 2015.
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| And Russell, there's going to be some very pleasant headaches.
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| Quote ="garyhulsefan"And Russell, there's going to be some very pleasant headaches.'"
hasn't he had enough of them already!
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| Will Ratchford be your first choice kicker?
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| Quote ="St. Rughead"Will Ratchford be your first choice kicker?'"
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| Quote ="St. Rughead"Will Ratchford be your first choice kicker?'"
Either him or GOB. I think GOB is better imo.
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| Quote ="Vespid_Wire"Either him or GOB. I think GOB is better imo.'"
I would agree. GOB kicked over a hundred goals in the U20's and looked just as metronomic as Bret Hodgson. In contrast Ratchford is a bit erratic, especially out towards the touchline. I suspect the current thinking behind the goal kicker may well be that Ratchford will always be in the starting 13, but GOB has still to cement his place.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"hasn't he had enough of them already!'"
That was a good one for you.
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| Just for those that didn't see it, here's the shirt the lads had on for Sunday's game.
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