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| Quote ="karetaker"Train from Birchwood last year there and back no problem, i would avoid oxford road like the plague on way home though was hundreds trying to get on our train they had no chance.'"
what time was that though? as the afternoon went on i was getting texts from friends at birchwood and padgate telling horror stories.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"what time was that though? as the afternoon went on i was getting texts from friends at birchwood and padgate telling horror stories.'"
I got 11.50 train out and was sometime after 9 back.
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| No dramas for us. Mini bus last year from the Dog at 1230 back in Warrington for 9pm. Saying that we have done that for that last 8 years regardless of who gets to the final!
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| went by coach last year was back in warrington half 9 and back in conny club..only snag was with being dropped off near the ground you are limited with the pubs around there..any one recomend any decent pubs within a stones throw from the ground
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| Tips for getting the train from a regular user of them to attend football/rugby matches:
Unless you're going at the crack of dawn DON'T try and go from Padgate or Birchwood. It will be full from Central and you won't get on. Get a bus or train into town first and have a look at the queue at Central. If it's massive go from Bank Quay.
On the way home DON'T try and avoid central Manchester by going from Trafford Park. The trains will be full from Manchester and you won't get on. Just go to Manchester. The easiest way of getting there is from the MUFC train station behind the South Stand. You'll be at Oxford Road in less than ten minutes.
Once in Manchester DON'T try and get on at Oxford Road or Deansgate. Unless we've lost and you've left a few minutes early to beat the rush, the train will be full from Piccadilly and you won't get on. Go there. If you're at Oxford Road just jump on a Piccadilly bound train - it will take two minutes.
Some sneaky tips to get on at Piccadilly:
If you're approaching Platform 14 and there's a massive queue waiting to go to Warrington, tell the guard you're getting on the next train at Platform 13. Unless they're being ultra vigilant checking tickets (which they weren't last year because they had too many crowds to be bothered) they'll let you go straight past. Walk down the steps to Platform 13 then just turn around when you get down there and cross on to Platform 14, thus skipping the queue.
If it's an absolute nightmare at Piccadilly though, one alternative option is to jump on the next train to Stockport from there. There's loads of them and the journey takes five minutes. Once at Stockport just get on the next East Midlands train to Liverpool. It will stop in Manchester and Warrington on the way, and you'll be sitting comfortably in your seat when the mass pile on at Piccadilly starts.
Have fun!
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"went by coach last year was back in warrington half 9 and back in conny club..only snag was with being dropped off near the ground you are limited with the pubs around there..any one recomend any decent pubs within a stones throw from the ground'"
Don't know what they'd be like on Grand Final day, but there's quite a few to select from. Tollgate, Gorse Hill, The Trafford, Sam Platts, The Quadrant, Railway club, Bishops Blaize, Stretford Ex Servicemans, Trafford Hall Hotel or The Pomana Palace which is a bit further out towards Manchester but could be used if you want to do a pub crawl from Manchester to Old Trafford.
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| On advice from Man U fan, drove last year and paid £10 to park in industrial estate about 5 minutes walk from ground. Was back home, changed, and 'destressing' in the local by 9pm (and yes, I stayed to clap both teams off, even though the Leeds team looked totally baffled by being applauded by Wire fans).
Mates who insisted they couldn't go the game and not have a drink so went by train, finally got home between midnight and 2am dependent on what train they could squeeze onto.
You'd think, dealing with 75k crowds on at least 20 times a year, the public transport around OT would be geared up for such things ..... but then you'd be assuming they give a how much hassle fans go through to get to / from a match.
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| They're not used to dealing with thousands of fans all going to to one place though are they? There's four trains an hour from Manchester to Warrington Central and another one or two to Bank Quay, but if there's 10,000 people wanting to board them it's not a normal situation.
That's why if you're one of those 10,000 you need to think outside the box and follow my advice. Just turning up at Birchwood or Trafford Park thinking a train is due so no problem is naivety in the extreme.
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| Am I right in saying no team has ever won with its fans in the Stretford End?
Last year we left five minutes after the hooter and were in the looking glass a couple of minutes after half 8. Not many people seemed to know about the trains to OT halt.
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| Back on topic:
Those who bought tickets from RFL last year; where did you end up seated? My understanding was that the club got the pre-printed WU/WL blocks behind the sticks so you could only buy those from the ground when they went on sale on the Sunday. Weren't the RFL ones only for the upper tier or North/South stands?
edit: Just checked RFL site for this year and the WL101-106 & WU201-208 blocks are not available ...... the family area is, but only in the corner bit.
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| Quote ="BogBrushHead"Back on topic:
Those who bought tickets from RFL last year; where did you end up seated? My understanding was that the club got the pre-printed WU/WL blocks behind the sticks so you could only buy those from the ground when they went on sale on the Sunday. Weren't the RFL ones only for the upper tier or North/South stands?'"
I got mine from the RFL and they were in the West Upper. About 15 yards in from the touchline I'm pretty sure it's the family stand when United play. It was a good 80-90% Warrington fans around me.
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| Quote ="Ganson's Optician"Not many people seemed to know about the trains to OT halt.'"
It always amazes me how many people don't know about that. I'm going to Old Trafford tomorrow night and planning to use that station, but still I have mates who have been enough times before to know better talking about the tram.
One year after a United/Liverpool match I was in a pub by Oxford Road and text my mate asking where he was and his response was "In the queue at the tram stop" - he's been there ten times as many times as I have!
After the Grand Final last year we left a couple of minutes before the end and walked straight into the station and on to a train. The rest of those who did the same got straight on a train to Warrington at Oxford Road, but I was in Manchester for a while and saw the chaos that came later both there and Piccadilly.
Even if you're elsewhere in Manchester earlier in the day and get the tram to the ground in the first place, the train is still by far the best way to get back. It'll probably be free (it was last year) but even if you have to pay, you'll be spending about three quid and avoiding a lot of hassle at the tram stops.
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"It always amazes me how many people don't know about that. I'm going to Old Trafford tomorrow night and planning to use that station, but still I have mates who have been enough times before to know better talking about the tram.
One year after a United/Liverpool match I was in a pub by Oxford Road and text my mate asking where he was and his response was "In the queue at the tram stop" - he's been there ten times as many times as I have!
After the Grand Final last year we left a couple of minutes before the end and walked straight into the station and on to a train. The rest of those who did the same got straight on a train to Warrington at Oxford Road, but I was in Manchester for a while and saw the chaos that came later both there and Piccadilly.
Even if you're elsewhere in Manchester earlier in the day and get the tram to the ground in the first place, the train is still by far the best way to get back. It'll probably be free (it was last year) but even if you have to pay, you'll be spending about three quid and avoiding a lot of hassle at the tram stops.'"
Just takes a bit of research, but as you say most arrive like headless chickens then blame Northern Rail/Manchester United/RFL/Richard Lewis/ClubCall/Eddie Hemmings. (Delete as appropriate.
I am lucky in that I am a 15 minute walk from Sankey, so we don't have to worry, although I usually head over to Manchester some time in the morning before there are any crowds. From what I can remember less than 20 people got on the train to OT at Oxford Road, yet by all accounts people were ramming themselves onto the trams.
I guess I am lucky in that I travel to most games on the train so am used to it.
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| If the hassle is too much for some, stay at home and watch it on the tele.
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| Quote ="Bobby Digital"If the hassle is too much for some, stay at home and watch it on the tele.'"
If you want hassle, try getting from Hull to Featherstone on a Sunday! Nipping down the road to Old Trafford is a breeze.
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| Quote ="BogBrushHead"Those who bought tickets from RFL last year; where did you end up seated?'"
I was in the corner of the Stretford End towards the South Stand, a few rows in front of the big screen.
It was all Warrington in my immediate vicinity, but there was some Leeds a few rows in front and some Widnes supporting Leeds as well. Naturally this led to some confrontation as people started getting wound up. I don't care what anyone says about it being a family game, people should be able to enjoy "banter" (in inverted commas because I hate that word), people can't handle drink, etc. The bottom line is it is an emotive sport and in a game of that magnitude passions are going to run high. If things start going against your team - as they obviously did for us last year - and you have supporters of your opponents, and even worse, supporters of your local rivals cheering them on - in your vicinity, it is going to wind some people up.
There was no excuse for Leeds fans being in our end last year because they've been to loads of finals and are always at the other end of the ground so they should have known better, unless they deliberately wanted to wind up the opposition. As for Widnes fans who just wanted us to get beat? Well fine, but don't come in our end then! If I had been at any of the Leeds/Saints finals I would have wanted Leeds to win, but I certainly wouldn't have gone in the Saints end, wearing Warrington colours, and cheered Leeds on. Behaviour like that is pure stupidity that's bound to end in tears.
I'm glad the RFL have taken a more sensible approach this year and not put behind the posts tickets on sale until the teams are known. It means certain people can have no excuse if they end up in "the wrong end" this time.
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"It always amazes me how many people don't know about that. I'm going to Old Trafford tomorrow night and planning to use that station, but still I have mates who have been enough times before to know better talking about the tram.
One year after a United/Liverpool match I was in a pub by Oxford Road and text my mate asking where he was and his response was "In the queue at the tram stop" - he's been there ten times as many times as I have!
After the Grand Final last year we left a couple of minutes before the end and walked straight into the station and on to a train. The rest of those who did the same got straight on a train to Warrington at Oxford Road, but I was in Manchester for a while and saw the chaos that came later both there and Piccadilly.
Even if you're elsewhere in Manchester earlier in the day and get the tram to the ground in the first place, the train is still by far the best way to get back. It'll probably be free (it was last year) but even if you have to pay, you'll be spending about three quid and avoiding a lot of hassle at the tram stops.'"
I've been going to Old Trafford for 32 years and I think I've only used the station at the ground once and that was for a Great Britain match with my dad.
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| Fair enough and I'm sure you have your reasons as to why, but in my opinion it's absolutely spot on. I've been back in central Manchester within minutes of leaving the ground every single time I've used it.
I was gutted after an Olympic football match and United/Liverpool last season when it wasn't open (due to railworks) because the tram is a horror story on match days.
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"Fair enough and I'm sure you have your reasons as to why, but in my opinion it's absolutely spot on. I've been back in central Manchester within minutes of leaving the ground every single time I've used it.
I was gutted after an Olympic football match and United/Liverpool last season when it wasn't open (due to railworks) because the tram is a horror story on match days.'"
There's no reason behind it. It's just something we never thought of back when we were going every other week on the train. I guess t was just easier, and a couple of quid cheaper, which is important when you're 15/16/17, to get on and off at Trafford Park.
We went home from Trafford Park last year. It was rammed but we did get on the first train that stopped there. It was a good laugh on there to be fair.
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| Someone posted on here on the Sunday last year that they couldn't get on at Trafford Park, and neither could the other Warrington fans waiting there. He got a bit uppity when I suggested that going to that station in the first place, knowing the train would already have taken a hefty number on board in Manchester, was perhaps not his most intelligent decision!
Anyway, I guarantee that anyone wanting to get a train to Warrington after the match should have very few problems going from the stadium station to Oxford Road, then Oxford Road to Piccadilly if the platform going to Warrington is chocker, then walking straight from Platform 13 to Platform 14 (do not go up the steps/escalator and straight into the queue) when they get there.
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| Quote ="BogBrushHead"Back on topic:
Those who bought tickets from RFL last year; where did you end up seated? My understanding was that the club got the pre-printed WU/WL blocks behind the sticks so you could only buy those from the ground when they went on sale on the Sunday. Weren't the RFL ones only for the upper tier or North/South stands?
edit: Just checked RFL site for this year and the WL101-106 & WU201-208 blocks are not available ...... the family area is, but only in the corner bit.'"
I bought a ticket from the RFL last year immediately after we beat Saints and managed to get an amazing seat at the Wire end of the stadium in the front row of block WU205 (I think this is some sort of international executive block for Man U games). The view was incredible right behind the sticks.
It turned into a nightmare with a group of boozed up tools behind me who thought it great fun to burst balloons right by the ears of those in front (mainly me due to being the only one in a Wire top). When that didn't get the reaction the wanted they spent the rest of the build-up and the whole of the first half kicking the back of my seat. Fortunately they disappeared at half time and never came back. The block directly in front of seemed to have a large group of middle aged idiots, who I was told were from Leeds but were United rather than Rhinos supporters, who spent most of the game with their backs to the action trying to wind up anyone behind them. What should have been, win lose or draw, one of the highlights of following the Wire was a thoroughly unpleasant experience that I have no intention of going through again. =#FF0000Unless the RFL can give me some assurances that I will be sat in the Wire end of the ground amidst Wire fans then I will be queuing in the rain if necessary to buy from the club.
Edit - This is IF we win on Thursday night. I'm certainly not going to start counting chickens.
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| Quote ="Thelonius"I bought a ticket from the RFL last year immediately after we beat Saints and managed to get an amazing seat at the Wire end of the stadium in the front row of block WU205 (I think this is some sort of international executive block for Man U games). The view was incredible right behind the sticks.
It turned into a nightmare with a group of boozed up tools behind me who thought it great fun to burst balloons right by the ears of those in front (mainly me due to being the only one in a Wire top). When that didn't get the reaction the wanted they spent the rest of the build-up and the whole of the first half kicking the back of my seat. Fortunately they disappeared at half time and never came back. The block directly in front of seemed to have a large group of middle aged idiots, who I was told were from Leeds but were United rather than Rhinos supporters, who spent most of the game with their backs to the action trying to wind up anyone behind them. What should have been, win lose or draw, one of the highlights of following the Wire was a thoroughly unpleasant experience that I have no intention of going through again. =#FF0000Unless the RFL can give me some assurances that I will be sat in the Wire end of the ground amidst Wire fans then I will be queuing in the rain if necessary to buy from the club.
Edit - This is IF we win on Thursday night. I'm certainly not going to start counting chickens.'"
I have sat/stood near people from Warrington who have been absolute tools, likewise I have had fans of other clubs near me at Wembley etc and had a great laugh with them.
It's not what club people support but rather how people conduct themselves, for example I was at the LSV last Sunday and obviously the Batley supporters were mixed with the home fans. They were causing no issue whatsoever, yet a bloke stood next to me was kicking off and getting quite aggressive as he felt offended by their presence. The funny thing was that a few weeks earlier I had seen him at Mount Pleasant stood in the home supporters stand!
The problem with Old Trafford is it is close enough for people who aren't really that interested in the game to go along for the drinking etc, so you will always get idiots. Personally I don't want to see segregation in our game and don't see any need for it. I think IF we get there I will splash out a bit more for better seats to try and get away from the nonsense, though it didn't really affect me last year being honest.
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| I didn't enjoy last years event at all. Too many idiots from other clubs trying to spoil it. Contrast that with the Wembley trips, and I know where I'd rather go. I'll go this year if the ends are segregated. Evening kick off's = drinking all day, which, at such a highly emotive event is a bad situation when you start mixing fans.
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| Quote ="Ganson's Optician"Personally I don't want to see segregation in our game and don't see any need for it.'"
Of course there's need for it. Look, I understand that the Grand Final and Challenge Cup Final rely heavily of attendance of nuetrals. If they were exclusively the preserve of supporters of the two clubs involved then they would be held at significantly smaller venues and the whole sense of event would be downsized, as would the revenue generated. I do get that. I therefore understand why full segregation can never be completely achieved because tickets have to be so freely available to all.
However, if we win on Thursday but then lost next Saturday the last thing I'll want as I feel the stake through my heart of failure again is a Wigan or Leeds fan jumping about celebrating in the seat next to me. Even worse than that would be someone in the colours of a team not even playing jumping about revelling in our misery - as I witnessed last year from the Widnes fans I mentioned earlier in this thread. You might think that would be a great laugh but it's not for everyone.
To me the RFL have got it right this time. The side stands are on sale for the nuetrals who want to go regardless and supporters of the clubs involved who want a better seat knowing they won't be in their own "end" as such and accept what comes with that. The two ends are held back for those who want to cheer on their team surrounded by their own fellow supporters. Absolutely as it should be, and infinitely less potential for aggro.
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