Lee Briers and Andrew Henderson.
Do we give them the benefit of the doubt.
Does Steve Price tell them this is the way we are going to play. Coach them I’m not interested in your points of view.
They get another chance under Daryl Powell
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In Lee Briers case is it a Kieron Cunningham moment.
Sorry Lee you were a great player and a legend for this club but I’m afraid it’s time to call it a day.
As for Andrew Henderson we brought him in as a genuine replacement for Steve Price a coach for the future and have not given him a chance. Everyone raved the way in had London playing. For me he should of got the interim coach job and Steve Price should of gone as soon as he made his intentions clear.
I personally hope he gets the Castleford job and proves the Warrington Chief Executive and board wrong.

Briers needs to fly the nest. His status at the club isn’t helpful, the fracture between his playing career and how the club has performed since then has our fans split on their opinions of him. Some are fiercely loyal, some think that he is the problem for our faltering attack.

Realistically, his job is to offer up ideas to the head, who develops a plan, which Briers is told to deliver to the best of his ability. So we have no idea how good of a coach he is.

He needs to go out on a ‘loan’ for a few years, coach in the championship, earn his stripes and come back when the time is right (should the club believe he is the long term project, if not, I have no idea why we have kept him on after the last coaching overhaul)

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We never will know the freedoms or lack of they are allowed. That's not really the question it's how well are they translating prices instructions to the training ground and match day?
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I think that we are heaping too much on what the coaches are doing when we have a group of key players who I believe have become complacent, they have a cc medal or two and are relatively happy with their lot. Year on year the failings have been put down to lack of big game experience team selection questionable tactics from the opposition. Yet what are now seen as our leaders have overseen the failure of 2 coaches I dont see them out seeing a 3rd.

I do believe that not deliberately too many key players have become accustomed to a relatively easy life at warrington as all blame seems to go in the coach and the annual scape goat so being there it there abouts is now acceptable!! We need a coach who brings a mindset of wanting to win every game to the team and makes then push themselves harder as I certainly would say the players are as culpable as the coach and assistants in their performances!!!

A point worth picking up on this thread is, the last assistant coach who got such scrutiny and/or blame for the first teams form is currently the challenge cup holder.

As far as I’m aware Tony Smith had 3 no assistant coaches during his time at Warrington. Agar ( who this board slaughtered) Poaching and Lowes.
Richard Marshall and Lee Briers in background.
Marshall and Agar are now Super league coaches, I believe Henderson stands a good chance for the Cas role. So maybe it’s time for Briers to earn his stripes elsewhere. Funnily enough I recall Lee talking up Carcasone lately maybe that’s his destination.

What you say here was my reasoning for wanting Wane for coach, not because of his brand of rugby he just doesn’t do prima donnas, he would bin them, Smith did that when he arrived initially when he benched Briers, he just didn’t continue you it and we are where you are suggesting now IMO

True, but I don't think that winning the Challenge Cup really indicates very much. Leeds won it by winning three matches, two of which were against Hull KR and Salford. You need to look much longer-term to reasonably assess how a coach is performing.

Both will be gone with Price and I am glad. Allow Price to freshen things up and bring his own staff with him.

Your true colours revealed?!!

Obviously meant Powell

I know it's a typo, but I just shuddered

We'll never know how much input Henderson and Briers put into the tactics/playing style with Wire. It does seem that the way were playing is greatly at odds with how Henderson had London playing prior to his departure to Warrington. Also, Smith always said that he didn't coach the attack and left that to the players. You'd have thought that Briers would have had a say in how we attacked, but he also had M Monaghan, Hodgson, and (for a considerable amount of time) a big dominating pack in front of him. I'd be surprised if those two hadn't voiced their concerns on our playing style to Price, at some point over the past couple of years, but maybe they just ran with whatever Price wanted. Henderson looked like a SL coach in the making while at London, and must be a little disappointed not to get the head coaches job with us. Good look to him with the future, as I believe he has a lot to offer, at least, in the higher end of the Chasmpionship, if not SL. Not sure what Briers has to offer, as he doesn't have a track record as a head coach, and can only see him as an assistant, or other capacity, going forward. All second guessing, and it will be interesting to see who is appointed as Powell's assistant and other backroom staff.

I was very impressed with what I saw of Henderson whilst at London and if anyone ought to know a bit about attacking rugby it ought to be Briers (having watched him play for years). I know a coach (very well) who coached one team to be a wonderfully attacking side but who struggled to replicate the same skills at his next club. It's not quite as easy as it looks.
I just hope Powell makes a good start.

League Express today with a 'we understand' quote that Henderson and Briersy have been told that their services will not be required from the end of the season. No surprise but if so, that indicates that the club and DP intend big changes next year.

It has to be Powells choice of backroom staff IMO, that's of course if current coaching staff are willing to stay on as well. I think Hendo deserves a shot at superleague club for what he did at London, ideally we would be giving him the rest of this season to build his cv a little.

Andrew Henderson is an intelligent , forward thinking coach who plays a positive brand of rugby. . That brand was the primary reason we brought him to the club. He is an Assistant coach and regrettably has had little or no input in how we play because Price dictates that and refuses to listen to anything or anybody else. It’s like the infrastructure of any business, the main man can’t be undermined by his assistant otherwise he goes first.

I’ve been in the company of Andrew Henderson on a number of occasions, speaks well about the club, never bites the hand that feeds him even though you can feel his frustration. Absolute class act of a man and loyal to the task.

Good luck to him and I for one hope he gets a job to allow him to shine.

I think he’d of done e a great job at Salford and if I was Leigh, I’d be sniffing

Deserves better than Leigh because they will I feel definitely go down. As previously mentioned I hopes he gets the Castleford job.

Always been impressed when seeing / hearing Hendo interviewed. Thought Powell might keep him on. My frustration with Briers is I don't really understand what he does and thus cannot say one way or another

How do you know what Henderson does?

I think we're judging based off what they have done previously, Henderson was a coach I was pleased we brought in, as he had his London team playing some good stuff. Conversely Richard Agar had been sacked from Hull FC & Wakey and you couldn't find many fans that had a good word to say about him, so that impression was carried over to us.

Truth is, we don't really know what assistant coaches do day to day, and we don't know what influence they are having in the backroom, Henderson went from a head coach to an assistant, Agar went from Assistant to head coach of Leeds and a challenge cup winners medal - he can't be that bad?

I was about to say the same thing.

Yes Henderson comes across as a decent bloke but lets remember he and Briers are there every day in training, they are the ones coaching the players, instructing them what to do, relaying information and discussing tactics. They are also part of the problem.

The constant problem with criticising assistant coaches is that no one knows what their input is and how much the coach listens to, and implements their ideas. I see criticism of assistants as a way of venting frustration.