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A shame that such a great player has so many external concerns which have no doubt affected his playing career.

Quote ="Champions Again"Oh dear! www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480'" Maybe, he should relaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaax and take

Quote ="Champions Again"Oh dear! www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480'" Maybe, he should relaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaax and take

I think thats the main reason he is in this predicament to be honest. His chickens are well and truly coming home to roost.

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No libelous stuff please otherwise it's a week off

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Carry on

Ok Yed but we have all heard whats rumoured to have occured in relation to Gleeson.
I have a feeling we might not be seeing him in a RL shirt for a while.

What we hear and what we post for all to see, including Solicitors, are 2 different things.

Can we not just get around it by saying Allegedly?

They do it on the T.V all the time - Allegedly.

Unless he has a super trooper duper injunction

Martin's 'day job' must be in retail management.

No

? Why can't it be discussed, when the statement is actually form Hull FC?

Hull fans will be gutted as the bloke is still a class act. It is no coincidence that their form started picking up after he went there. I'm a little gutted myself as i had them e/w for the challenge cup at 16/1.

Discuss what is within the bounds of fact and not speculating that could potentially cause trouble for RLFANS, i've no problem with that.

What speculation could cause trouble for RLFans? When it's in the public domain that he's suffering from stress, surely speculation delving deeper into that is commonplace?

does this really need clarifying?

Again?


you know what you can talk about, you can talk about this. dont be filling in gaps with stuff with the stuff every man and his dog reckons he knows about.

I think this situation must be what Sean Long was ranting and raving about the other day on twitter.

whewwwwww, all I said he should relaaaaaax
You know, nice milky Horlicks, comfy cardigan, maybe get his box set of Heartbeat out, and a bit of Matt Monro in the background, and people are talking about super-injunctions and libel.
What a nasty world we live in...tut tut

My dog knows nothing.
Me on the other hand knows plenty.

The problem with the internet is that people like to shoot their mouths off and peddle rumours and speculation when they don't know what is going on in reality, and sometimes it ends up being a cause for embarassment when they find the truth later.

I remember when Marcus Trescothick disappeared from cricket a few years ago with a "stress-related illness" and the buzz on the internet was that Michael Vaughan was having an affair with his wife, that was a great rumour, went all over the forums, got hinted at in the tabloids. When the truth came out about how seriously ill he'd been with depression and anxiety (which is carrying on today even though he still plays and is the best batsman in England) it made those rumours look quite sick especially when you read his book which is a haunting read.

The same thing happened on here when Paul Cullen was absent for personal reasons during the 2007 season, we can all remember the rumours that were peddled on here along those same lines. I wonder how the people who were peddling those rumours felt when they found out the truth of why Cullen had been absent? As usual its a case of people knowing f- all and wanting to spread gossip thinking its harmless but you never know what the truth is and the effect on the people involved or especially their family members who end up reading it.

I think if we are honest all 99.99% of us know about Gleeson is just what has come from Twitter, people just repeat and recycle (and embellish) what rumours are already out there. People will just believe what they want to believe. If some random Wiganer posts on Twitter that he's heard King is signing for Wigan, the average Warrington fan will think 'deluded pie-eater'. If that same random Wiganer posts a story about Gleeson involving illegal activities, the average Warrington fan will think 'no smoke without fire'.

Who knows the real truth about what has happened to Gleeson but it is obviously serious and I wish him all the best. He was a Wire player and a professional RL player and that is worthy of respect. The last year has seen two ex pros pass away who we have all discussed a lot on here, often negatively, and I am sure a lot of us would regret with hindsight some of the views we expressed...?

This ending is surely contradictory to a pretty good post.

You wish him all the best and he is worthy of respect just because he played rugby?

His stress related illness may have been caused by some highly illegal activity or have a victim who is in serious danger.

On the flip side, and to what your post is saying (or so I interpret), I agree that unless we have facts it's best not to speculate. Cullen's absence is a PERFECT example.

I love how people are so dismissive of stress as an illness.

If someone said X player had Cancer, there'd be a 30 page thread of well wishers but say stress and all of a sudden it's different.

Well can i add 'stress' killed my father so i'm not as quick to dismiss it as 'something that will pass'.

The old saying you can bandage a broken arm but you can't banadge a broken mind springs to mind.

Very true, mental illness still has a stigma which is MASSIVLY unfair.

Yed I think some are actually questioning the statement that he is suffering a 'stress related' illness.
Its a very broad range, if its stress just say stress. Stress related could be one of many illnesses or health concerns.

Can't blame some people for finding it hard to sympathise with him when at various times in his career he has been nothing short of a disgrace.

The fact that he cannot play the sport he is very good at because of a clearly congested/troubled personal life is sad for all lovers of sport to see, but his past indiscrepancies mean many people will just look at another incident in his career.

I wish Martin well and hope he can overcome his illness