For the record... I am not a Warrington fan and I do know that he was a talent before you got him. In the end you benefited from a coach that didn't put his faith in him. Make no mistake though that this lad had a lot of plaudits and has done so for a while.
As for what you have provided him outside of playing time it is no more than he would have got everywhere else. You are seriously deluded if you think that you have shaped him into the player he has become.

As for your argument about him being destroyed if he went to Warrington what exactly are your arguments for that? Someone could quite easily argue that he could be in danger of going stale at Salford.
At the end of the day he has met all the challenges he has faced this far and moving to a bigger club is the logical next step.

It pains me to admit it, but Warrington are or are certainly on the verge of becoming one of the big clubs.
Winning trophies is one thing but facilities, money, reputation, fan base all contribute to and I don't think they will be without a trophy for too long.

That's a good point.

There's a lot more to getting the most out of a player than just game time alone. If that was the case, Littler would be the worlds greatest player...

Salford have done a good job with the youngsters that are coming through and deserve the credit for such.

The longer this fiasco drags on, the more I am convinced that letting Myler go would be a good thing. The pressure this kid is going to be under from this point on, regardless of club, will be immense. It's a great British attitude to build our heroes up, just to see them fall and I can see where this is going. Maybe we should take the money and use it wisely. Concentrate on Ratchford. Bring in a few seasoned Pros and continue with the great youth development.

Salford will of course get their reward for the hard work by commanding a good transfer fee... more than they would have got had they not developed Myler to the extent he has become...

So, if as I said in my earlier post, Salford are in a win, win position...

I like your reasoned arguments and credit to you for arguing a view sensibly. The trouble is, they are arguments based on "Maybe". Salford has shaped him into the player he has become. As Salford fans that know, watch, and interact with the people that perform on the pitch and those that run things off it, we are in a more knowledgeable position than those wishing to comment on something that has piqued their interest over half a season. Myler has natural talent. But natural talent alone does not make you consistent, stand-out, confident, balanced amongst other things. Salford must be doing something right with the young guys. Whether you know or not, there is a lot of very good young players coming through. I'd be surprised if the likes of Turner, Ratchford, and Adamson (If they continue the way they are going) to become RL big guns. Not to mention the fringe youngsters eager to improve.

While I will agree that if Myler considers himself the best in the business he should move on to get the most out of a short career I disagree with the fact that my Club did nothing more than to play him regularly to develop him into what he is.

As for Warrington. They wouldn't be the first club to throw lots of money at a problem in hope of some short-term success. They are a club with lots of potential, but we have all been saying that for at least ten years...

Just heard Stevo on sky sports news saying if Myler wants to improve he needs to leave Salford. GOD I HATE THAT MAN

I really dont hope I dont bump into him again at the willows !!!!
That useless waste of oxygen boils my blood

My interest in Myler has not piqued in the last 6 months as I have in fact watched the lad for a good couple of years going back to his academy days with Widnes and was disappointed that he was never properly given a chance in the first team.
He has had that chance now and done well out of it but from watching his development he would have been the player he is now at any club he joined.. Widnes, Salford, Workington, Keighley, Leeds, Saints. His guile and speed of thought have always been in evidence as has his bossiness that is often needed of a good-half-back. You say that natural talent does not make you consistent but I would argue that is not true. If anything natural talent is what gives you these things.. the ability to perform at a high level with ease.
The only thing different now is that he has had a little more exposure.
You can be forgiven for thinking that you have honed the lad into the star he is now as the first you probably heard of him was when he signed on your dotted line, but you only need to go over to the Widnes board to see how highly he was regarded as a player and how disappointed we were to lose him.

The major difference at Warrington now from back then is the culture... Smith has demanded changes and been given the freedom to carry them out whereas Cullen asked for them and was rejected and Lowes... well that speaks for itself and you know enough about Lowes yourselves.

But if he does go he won't look as good in a better team

Or will he look better with better players around him?

I hope not - many years of buying seasoned pros has got us where we are today (ie. nowhere).

Seasoned pros=Just that

Not -

Seasoned pros=Has-been retirees

Got to be more selective when buying the older player, can't see anything but a positive of buying the next John Hos Cartwright as he without doubt brought a great deal to the team but then you get some of the free loaders who have signed up to the Salford has beens benevolent fund over the years (Gary Jack on the second comeing anyone??)
What we need to do if this is the road we are going down is identify where we have talented youungsters who would benefit from learning from a master in that position (as i'm sure the young forwards we have on staff at present would do if another Cartwright came along).

This is easier said than done but that is what Steve Simms is paid his salary for.

With regard to a few exceptions, raw talent does not a complete player make.

I've played pro RL and without a shadow of a doubt I have seen a few players that, with the right people around them, would have been world class. They didn't become that because they were managed poorly off the field/were not nurtured correctly/just self-imploded. What a lot of supporters don't realise is what actually goes on behind the scenes. A good club will see that this does not happen. Like I said, Myler is a talent, but I don't know the man. Some people can be awsome talents but their nature or surroundings impact on their being making them just another name. We don't know if Myler is better than that, I hope he is, We have needed a natural HB in International colours for far too long.

As for Widnes...Well...It proves the point that Myler will choose to further his career, which means that he will leave the Willows if History should repeat itself. I actually think that Myler leaving may (and I say that with great optimism) be better for us in the long and short term.

Find it a little strange that people are so horrified that we can lose Myler & are demanding justice for our hard work in nurturing the lad. Lest we forget, Richie joined us only 18 months ago when Widnes hit the skids so we can hardly claim to be solely responsible for the player's burgeoning talent. Also given that Myler, completely understandably, chose to concentrate on his fledgling career rather than offer any loyalty to his home-town club, can we really be so surprised if he takes a mega-bucks offer rather than pledge his long-term future to a club that must be under serious threat of its Super League place in 2 years time due to the continued silence over the stadium?

Naturally I'd love Richie to stay at Salford & be a key player for many, many years to come but I just can't see it. Now if we lose Adamson and/or Ratchford as well, then I'll be seriously p****d off!

well said and my thoughts entirely

I agree.

I was just arguing the point that the Club has done a little more than stuff him into a No. 7 jersey.

I don't begrudge the lad a shot at something bigger. I'd love for him to stay, but RL is a short career at best so he should do what he feels is best for his future. I wont condone him for that, and everything he has done for the club so far.

I see the opportunity as a few quid made, and as long as it is invested wisely, I have no problem with it. After all, we are a club that needs these kind of financial boosts to further the next level.

We have to realistic.

In a way I completely agree with you...
If he does stay and signs another contract I get the feeling that you will be in the unfavourable position where every now and again it is rumoured that he will be leaving and I think you're best rid of a player that Offiah see's as a means of him making more money.
I think it was unfair to the club to have publicly stated the kings ransom thing but at least we all know what type of a man Offiah continues to be.

I said above and strongly believe that Stefan Ratchfords your man. With Myler out the picture I think this guy will kick on!! Without wanting to get too far ahead it's far more likely that this guy will become a Salford legend and do it for the love of the club rather than the lure of the money.

Best of luck with it all anyway.
Chris

I agree with you on this one


Stefan is one of our own (although he comes from Wigan) he has come through the youth system and is Salford through and through.
I would be seriously pi$$ed of to lose our players brought through the ranks.
Richie Myler has unfortunately not come through the system so probably will not have as much affinity with the club as many of the other younger players.
Unfortunately I am biased when it comes to Salford (surprise ,surprise) and can not understand why anyone would want to leave .
Finally how about Turner/Ratchford for a half back combination if Richie does leave.

I have great sympathy for Salford here as they clearly gave Myler the pathway into SL,sadly nowadays this counts for jack,and i believe that he will leave at the end of the season to the highest contract bidder,at least whilst Myler is still under contract,you will at least get a fee for him

Spot on. Exactly what I have been thinking.

If Myler does leave Salford, I can understand some people criticising him and citing loyalty. I may not agree with it but I can understand it.

However I don't understand how he was disloyal to widnes. What was he supposed to do? Hang around in the off chance the club was saved from oblivion for a 2nd time? Does he pay his bills using magic beans and a cow?

Whatever decision he makes, he's earned the right to make that decision and althought it may be galling to lose him I can't see how Salford lose. They either keep him or get a wedge of cash I expect.

Warrington's ability to purchase players is driven by two things - the owner and the stadium. Get one or both of those sorted out (on the correct terms) and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

i hope richie stays and we build a team around him, we have the talent in ratchford turner adamson and sidlow just to name a few..... we could have a really competitive side on the future with are crop of youngsters so here's hoping he signs that contract

Could be very difficult.... Turner is off to Hull... done deal.

I've just said on the Wire forum i hope he stays at Salford if only for the next year or 2. If you look at it from an international point of view the lad is developing very nicely at Salford where with all due respect he's a huge fish is a small pond. He is the main man and has abit of a licenece to play his own game.

I don't think he needs the pressure of a move to a Warrington or Wigan where he'll get expectation heaped on his shoulders and will get stick from fans if things don't quite work out within the first 6months.

The kids only 19 and staying at Salford will be the best for him long term. If the new Stadium comes maybe Salford can fufill his ambitions anyway and he'll stay for years and years but if not a big money move will always be on the cards for him without rushing into one too soon.

just been the lead sports story on GMR with richie saying he is more than happy to stay with us if the right deal can be reached and also luke adamson hoping to sign an extension to his contract