I have been one of the many calling for mcrae to go and I don't wish any illness on the guy at all but will be interesting to see if during this month off due to illness he is still well enough to be a summariser on live games on sky

Who is bashing salford with everything?

If you want to pretend that Wild (Anderson, bailey, feka, Patten) is in tip top shape go ahead. If by the end of the 11 and 12 seasons SW et al have managed around 70-80% of games rub my nose in it. The giants do not have a high paid 'director of coaching' and it would be a backward step if simms were to join the Giants (would never happen)

Wild managed 16 sl games last year.

. A high figure for a good back rower. I am not bagging SW, he did a great job at the Giants. Will he hold up for the whole of 2011...and 2012....and 2013? I doubt it.

If you look hard enough you may find someone who gives a s**t what you say. Go away.

I've heard similar things about both wild and patten from a friend with close acquaintances at hudds. I have no reason to doubt what he's told me. And his info has always been pretty much spot on.

Still no official word on McRae ? Nearly dinner time ...

The more I think about it and having read the club statement about McRae, I come to three conclussions. 1) The club have given McRae a month off and are hoping results improve therefore when he does return the clamour to get rid of him will have died down and they are hoping supporters will sympathise with his 'illness' and lay off him and he will go quietly at end of season. 2) Thye have given him a month off and at the end of that month they will announce he is stepping down due to health reasons or 3) He actually is ill and is juts having a month to recover and will be back.

The official word is on the club website - they confirm he is ill and will be off for a month.

Both Bailey and Anderson DID NOT have medicals before signing for the club on large contracts. Bailey is unlikely to play due to suffering a torn archilles last year. Anderson had more work done on his back than he should have done and is really in no fit state to be considering playing. All facts.

Utter rubbish. Proof? Or did your gran's dog's brother's owner's next door neighbour's tom cat tell you?

If true then we need to get rid

and that will depend upon what the contract says! It would be very interesting indeed to know just how they are written and what provisions are in for situations like this

www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/ma ... ae-salford

www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/ma ... ae-salford

Just in time for wigan and leeds.....


Hope hes ok tho.....

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If SM’s illness is as believed to be ‘stress’ wouldn’t you think a month off with too much time to dwell on the problems will only make his condition worse? I’m no medical expert but I would have thought a few days rest, some prescription drugs and working towards improving the team would be a far more effective remedy. This unfortunate situation could actually work positively in Shaun McRae’s favour by encouraging extra support and commitment from the players.

It’s also noticeable on this forum that since this news broke supporters anger towards him appears to have diminished and a level of compassion towards his illness is evident.

Hopefully if and when he returns he will not have to endure the personal criticism he experienced against St Helens. As much as I’m disappointed with the start to the season I don’t think any human being should have to suffer personal insults whilst trying to do a job.

Whilst not yet qualified and speaking purely from a limited academic background in this area I must say that in the main, I disagree with the above. Like I say, I'm not qualified yet and thus cautious about providing a detailed argument as to why I disagree.
=)

I wouldn't class it as utter rubbish when there are plenty of people with repute backing up and coming out with more or less the same "rumours".
Let's just see how many games Bailey and Anderson play between them at the end of the season and re-visit this thread then.

If Anderson and Bailey have been signed without these problems being checked beforehand then Simms and anyone else who had an input should be all sacked. It is gross negligence and shows how poorly at certain levels the club is run - there needs to be an overhaul and in time for the new personnel to settle into the club before we go to the new ground (will not happen though)

Agree 100%. It's a joke, if true.

The situation with SM makes matters worse in regards to his suitability to carry on as Head Coach. After hearing his last interview and reading his comments, it is evident that he could be suffering from stress / anxiety / depression. If this truly is the case, I'm afraid a month isn't going to make any difference to his well being.

No-one wants to see this guy suffer, however it is clearly time for him to go. JW should persuade SM that it's in his own personal interests to go and pay up his contract and finish him on medical grounds.

If the club were to do this I've heard they wouldn't have the money to bring in a new coach. If SM was to see out the remainder of his contract on the sick (or paid off) then I'd imagine the other club coaches would have to share the duties between them. I don't agree with bringing in a new coach during the season anyway, prehaps this will give the club a few months to find a suitable replacement. (That is if one of the existing coaches doesn't stand up to grab the opportunity with both hands)

His health comes first.End of.
I hope he makes a quick and full recovery.

In relation to Bailey firstly you can forget insurance.
I would have thought that if he has been unable to commence his side of the contract then the club won't be in for its full length..
I find it difficult to believe there was no medical and then no protection within his contract

www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... lford.html

www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... lford.html

It's like buying a house without getting a survey done. I think the bigger concern should be why the injuries weren't picked up on the medical?
Did the powers that be decide to wing it despite being made aware of any injury, or was it missed all together?
Are medicals done in house or off site? If off site there may be a conversation to have with the parties carrying out the assesments.

I seem to remember Wigan fans querying our signing of David Hodgson along the same lines.

I've been impressed with Wild so far. I believe Wild was a calculated risk re is injury history but a risk worth taking , so far it is paying dividends , as for Stats , they won't be a real indicator for a few more rounds 7-8.

as for Bailey & Vinnie Anderson, hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it ,

but to remind everyone we are not a superstar team where everyone is queuing up to play for us. and recruitment was regarded as of a higher standard.