bring back that geordie "m.i.l.f" i say!!she seemed to have a lot better clue than some of the numptys we have trying to run things these days!!

milf ? You do know what that stands for right ? Would you ? Really ?

My God in my darkest dreams I wouldn't borrow yours and go there, though do agree we seemed to be more media friendly when she was with the club.

I agree it's a joak.

Take a chill pill all of you!!!!!!!



At least we WILL have a stadium to play in, in 2012, more than any PR at this point will do for Wakey & Cas. Doesnt matter how many statements are made or from who, we have all seen the stadium is on its way for us.

I would be more concerned if we were still at Wakey & Cas's positions, but, WE ARE NOT!!!!

Red tinted glasses or what Shirley? Yeah its great that the stadium is up and running, but you must surely accept this is poor by the club? Yeah give praise where praise is due we are getting a stadium, but the club MUST be criticized for this! I couldn't give a flying f*ck about Cas and Wakey so don't bring them into this its about us and our inept public relations skills not about Cas or wakey (Who still managed to speak to the press btw).

Shirl please for one moment take an outside look at things, p*ss P*ss poor PR by all concerned at Salford City Reds

The club made a boo-boo? I thought I heard the dull trouser-pings of the Turkey masses as I watched Boots n' All.
I was so enraged at not hearing the same tired lines about our stadium that I raised an almighty tut! Then got on with my life, but I'm dull like that...


Of course they MUST. What do you propose?
A letter to the directors, drawing their attention to their staff's oversight?
Perhaps a name-and-shame policy so we know exactly who swear at during home matches?
Or shall we just have a big old bitch about it on here? We can use capitals to show HOW MUCH IT MATTERS!

Not saying I agree or disagree. Life on this fence ambivalence is a place I'm currently happy to be. But all the same,

Very funny!

People still [iactually[/i watch Boots 'N All??

Boots-n-All plays to a dedicated audience of folk who are already RL fans.

The fact of our stadium being publicised or otherwise on such a show will make not one jot of difference to anything or anyone.

What will need to happen, and has the capability of making a difference is a concerted, concentrated marketing campaign to coincide with the stadium opening to attract new spectators. If the Club/Peel/Council don't do that at the right moment, then that is the time to criticise - the fact that we didn't have a spokesman on preaching to the already converted is of no consequence at all.

Right, I get it now. Must have been me ignoring the importance sky has on pro sport these days!

Mate IMO we have very few fans now, and the club must be trying to get the whole city and beyond interested in Salford RLFC. I cannot get how people can defend the club on missing out on a massive press release, please explain and set my mind at ease, are we happy with our PR?

Yes I have sent an e-mail to the club for an explanation. To disregard and tell the the biggest broadcaster of sport that we'd get back to them, and then not even bother to reply knocks me sick!!!

It appears that all the parties involved in Salford's new stadium either can't or are not willing to coalesce when it comes to public relations, doesn't it? It's frustrating and disappointing, but it isn't a new thing.

Ever since the project left the club's hands, updates from the Salford City Council-Peel collusion have been few and far between. In fact, much of it we've had to unearth ourselves from the bowels of the Council's website. This begs the question: if the joint venture cabal are unable or unwilling to speak about the new stadium, why not direct Sky Sports and any other media outlet to the information that is already in the public domain and therefore not sensitive? (i.e. the architect's drawings and the work that's currently taking place on the ground.)

You could argue that the [iBoots 'n' All[/i producers were lazy for not digging out this readily available information. A self-respecting journalist would portray this story equally on all sides, which would involve some research. Not much research either. Merely a couple of minutes on Salford City Council's website and a drive past the new stadium site with a camera. By the looks of it (I confess, I didn't watch the programme) [iBoots 'n' All[/i didn't portray this and therefore gave a biased view. Mind you, this is a News Corp. influenced company we're talking about.



I think it matters to some of our club's supporters, the supporters of other clubs and onlookers, particularly RL journos and writers. Since the collapse of Red City Developments I think there is a distrust of what has been said about the new stadium. I've read comments by said journos in newspapers and blogs, and threads on forums by opposing fans that convey the feeling that our club leading people on or 'swinging the lead'.

However, should we be bothered about these people? They are certainly down the list of people to influence; the RFL are higher up and you'd sincerely hope they are well up to speed with the project's ongoing developments.

I am as disappointed as anyone here about the PR effort post-RCD's demise; the joint venture should have set up an outlet rather than being so guarded as they have been thus far. But it's a bit late to do something about that now, particularly if in 10-12 weeks time the build begins and convinces everyone that the project is truly up and running.

Think the Boots and All thing is a PR disaster, much as I loathe SKY they are what in effect keeps RL alive in this country and we have not had the foresight to even attempt to provide them with some even rudimentory information. As Chico says the information is available openly on the councils website so why could'nt the club have used this and spent a little time and effort cobbling it together into a media friendly package (I doubt SKY called in the afternoon and said we need a 100 page report and detailed plans by 5 tonight for the show).

Sorry I hate to disagree with Shirl but this does show an endemic lack of professionalism on behalf of the club, some are privvy to the amounts the club spend on advertising and why this isnt a great deal more and yet here was a perfect vehicle for some free publicity and yet we missed it and gained nothing but bad press from it.

The club have dropped a clanger, they should have found someone to say something about the new stadium Howard is usually good to do these things and don't we pay a media spokesperson?

The bigger question here for me is how do we expect to attract new fans and sell teh game to manchester if we can't get our act together. The publicity for the new stadium should now be at the second stage where we are pushing awareness.

Every night Sale have a article in the MEN (misnamed as it has become a morning paper) Utd and City dominate the back pages and the central sections. We should have the buuilding bricks for the future in place and this is an indication that we haven't.

I didn't say Sky is not an important factor in broadcast sport - clearly that would be ludicrous - What I said was Boot n All is a program which preaches to the already converted and whilst it might give us all a warm feeling in the seat of our pants when our beloved Salford is mentioned, I just don't believe that anything said or done on that show has any wider effect in marketing Salford!

That's not to say that the club (business for that is what it is!) doesn't need a tremendous effort, and a much improved one from past performance, to get where we all want to be - All I am saying is that you need to concentrate your efforts where you will get most return and Boots n All is NOT it!!

Hands up who actually watch "boots n' all" it is a very poor sports programme with very limited information about Rugby League, only a few clubs get any real mentions with others just glazed over, even the name is a joke, look at other sports covered by Sky, football programmes are not called "Shin pads and kisses" the Yawnian sports programme is not called "ra ra grunt and groan" so why is ours not called something serious?
As for the MEN its main Rugby League writer is now gearing up for the football season, the Bolton Evening News has more in it about rugby league mainly Wigan, but its there.
We don't do press releases Sale do a daily one thats why it is in the MEN daily, Journos like not having to do much, do the work for them and it gets coverage, ask them to do it and nothing happens.

How can anyone defend the fuc*ing club on this, we moan about not getting any coverage and when we get the chance we balls it up. A simple we cant give a statement as we don't own the stadium but will ask the council/peel if they would like to comment wouldn't be rocket science would it?

If it was a one of then i wouldn't be to bothered but surely people must see the club is run by a set of armatures, take for example the other month they posted on the website about a "stadium party" but then back tracked in what they wrote on the website and changed it, whilst the Stadium getting built is great news surely people must see this is poor admin work by the people who are meant to run the club. Not to mention my mate who ordered a baby Salford top for his nephew which hadn't turned up 4 yes 4 months later, despite the club saying every week it would do. I can go on & on but im starting to depress myself!

Don't get me wrong Salford RL is my passion, my love & my life, but we cannot go on with the MCNUGGET brothers trying to run it, all they do is patrol the back of the shed like there some sort of forced to be reckoned with. Its like having the chuckle brothers running the club!

Im also pis*ed of with people on here thinking they are bigger and better fans than others, well guess what your not people pay there money just like you, i am more than happy to have reasonable debates with people and am also happy to accept that not everyone will agree on everything that's a fact of life, but the sheer number of people who think they are above other fans on here is diabolical. You all stand there in your little groups and do nothing but slag fans of if they say a bad word about the club looking down your noses.

MCNUGGETS OUT!

Im sorry for dooming and glooming here but some people need a wake up call.

"but surely people must see the club is run by a set of armatures"

interesting prospect

Armature pun alert:

Does that mean they are setting up the framework for a very successful club?
















I'll get my coat

I'll go out on a limb and get myself involved in this foolery.

They were always going to be aramaturish as it blatently costs and arm and leg to be anything else LOL.

Out of all that people point out one spelling mistake, i wonder if that's because you know i have a very valid point or are you still going to stick up for the club yet again.

If you want me to go on i will, didn't the club say they were going to show a DVD before a game (think it was this season?) and then when people turned out to watch it there was nothing of the sort. I actually remember people on here moaning about it. There is just another example of how our club is run.

But if people are happy with it then fine......

If you drop a quid do you struggle to bend over and pick it up with that rod jammed up your ar$e - jeezuz it's called humour.

And for what's worth some of what you say I agree with but then fail to see your point on others.

That sounds far-fetched. I can't take another word seriously.

For what its worth I heard from a source at the club that the council/peel have insisted that only they as the developer can make official statements about the progress of the new stadium. Apparently the club tried contacting the relevent people but they were on holiday. However, this does not excuse the person responsible at the club for not phoning Sky back to explain the situation. I am in no doubt that the Chairman will be bouncing off the ceiling when he returns from holiday this weekend.

There has been much critisism about lack of information by many fans and I think this explains the lack of PR about the new stadium from the club. The problem I see is that the council/peel don't understand or aren't interested in the business/marketing needs for the club to keep its supporters and the media updated.

I'm not defending the member of staff at the club because this person obviously f*ck*d up by not phoning sky back. I do think though that sometimes a few of us including myself at times are quick to over criticise the club at every possible opportunity.

It's very obvious everything is progressing, I drove past the site on Tuesday and there must have been about a dozen big diggers and numerous earth moving trucks!