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| Quote ="Michigan red"Was Foran injured or dropped?
Would be surprised if he was dropped as he did look like he had started to boss things more on the pitch.'"
I heard he was dropped.
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| Would like to thank Hunte & Long for minding the shop. Very please they have put their own stamp on the team with so many young players in the squad today. Way to go.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"Would like to thank Hunte & Long for minding the shop. Very please they have put their own stamp on the team with so many young players in the squad today. Way to go.'"
Think the fact that we saw Evalds excel at fullback, Syned and Fages in the halves and Owen show a bit of class for his try that some of the senior players must be really cacking it that the Doc intends bringing in so many new players and the youngsters are proving where the future lies.
Hate to say anything negative about the club captain but sorry Wild seemed today to look like he was being targeted by Hull, think we need as a priority a hard tackling no nonsense #13 who has some ball handling skills.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Think the fact that we saw Evalds excel at fullback, Syned and Fages in the halves and Owen show a bit of class for his try that some of the senior players must be really cacking it that the Doc intends bringing in so many new players and the youngsters are proving where the future lies.
Hate to say anything negative about the club captain but sorry Wild seemed today to look like he was being targeted by Hull, think we need as a priority a hard tackling no nonsense #13 who has some ball handling skills.'"
#13 as ball handler is not the norm anymore. If we've got a ball handler at 1 we could afford an extra carrier in that position, if you look at Mauro on you tube, he's tailor made for the hard tackling role.
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| Quote ="Michigan red"Think the fact that we saw Evalds excel at fullback, Syned and Fages in the halves and Owen show a bit of class for his try ..'"
Rose coloured glasses!
Evalds caught the high ball well and delighted that he didn't let the side down but ,other than being competent,he impressed by simply not making mistakes.Didnt pose a threat.
Sneyd cost us 2 tries. Kicked out on the full and had a kick charged down.
Theo anonymous.
Owen,I like.
Look, I think it's important not to criticise these boys and dent their confidence but its also important not to big them up.
They are probably ones for the future but,for heavens sake,lets not think you can build a competitive team around the kids.
Reality check,please.
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| I like Owen as well but thought he was pretty poor today apart from a bit of magic for his try. Couple of knock ons due to lack of concentration, his distribution wasn't as good as usual neither was his tackling. I think the kid is class & is the future but just didn't think he was his usual self today. Evalds had a decent game but didn't think he was tested that much as Hull's kicking game was pretty poor, Sneyd from what I have seen of him is a better bet at Full Back than in the halves. To be honest I think Foran was our best after against the Giants & was disappointed he was dropped, think he showed signs of leadership that game & I felt we lacked a bit of direction today without him. Performance felt a bit flat for me & it was a poor game overall IMO but the effort was there and we looked fit which was pleasing.
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| Quote ="Bonita Red"Rose coloured glasses!
Evalds caught the high ball well and delighted that he didn't let the side down but ,other than being competent,he impressed by simply not making mistakes.Didnt pose a threat.
Sneyd cost us 2 tries. Kicked out on the full and had a kick charged down.
Theo anonymous.
Owen,I like.
Look, I think it's important not to criticise these boys and dent their confidence but its also important not to big them up.
They are probably ones for the future but,for heavens sake,lets not think you can build a competitive team around the kids.
Reality check,please.'"
You dont like the kids do you Bonita? Your mate Nobby will be doing without them no doubt and bring in half a dozen six foot amazon mercenaries to replace them. The brand of Rugby will change no doubt to accommodate the colossuses so brought in and the young uns will have to tread water for a couple of years and then move on. However for me they have shown that they all will make it as they have been well taught.
On the subject of `teaching` the coaches need to sort out Dixons hopeless lobbed passing and surely Gleason has to play LEFT centre to accommodate his distribution (to Broughton). Currently his inside ball from right centre is not being picked up by anyone.
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| That's a bit unfair !
I'd love the kids to succeed but I do have a problem with people wanting the kids in,just because they're kids.
I think Theo and probably Owen will succeed,and I'm pleased that they've had the exposure and experience that our lack of alternatives has given them.
But,you can't take a couple of competent things done in a match and translate that into them being first team regulars.
We need experience in the spine of the team,as someone else said,1,6,7,9,13.
Do you really think the current crop can give you that,except on an occasional basis?
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| Realised my post was pretty harsh (even though it was true IMO) so I've deleted it.
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| See above.
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| Quote ="Bonita Red"That's a bit unfair !
I'd love the kids to succeed but I do have a problem with people wanting the kids in,just because they're kids.
I think Theo and probably Owen will succeed,and I'm pleased that they've had the exposure and experience that our lack of alternatives has given them.
But,you can't take a couple of competent things done in a match and translate that into them being first team regulars.
We need experience in the spine of the team,as someone else said,1,6,7,9,13.
Do you really think the current crop can give you that,except on an occasional basis?'"
Well we will agree to disagree. The kids included so far (Ford still awaiting his chance) have great potential and with quality coaching I feel they will all make it. First time I have seen Evalds at Full Back and he seemed just OK and I too was surprised he was given MoM by a seasoned pro from the 70s.
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| Gleeson should of got MOM in my opinion.
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| Gleeson was good but he for me off loaded to many balls to the phantom inside player.
We're very lucky to have talent like Snyed and Evalds at the back and where they have very different things to offer think until the team offers a greater attacking threat that Evalds looked more tactically aware on the back foot and he was very assured under the high ball.
Do think we'd have had a much better chance of winning today with Foran bossing the show and Theo outside him, Sneyd is a great talent but doesn't yet have that aura that we need out on the park.
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| Some of the comments on here about our young players are ridiculous, I'll leave it at that .
Foran was injured not dropped, he picked up a quad injury .
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| Not a great game, both teams made plenty of mistakes and while we were never quite up to it, neither were we ever quite out of it. We are in transition, and we shouldn't lose sight of that. Encouraging for me, apart from Theo ( a product of our Academy, all the same) the rest of our players were English, no imports, and five from the Academy. Hull also had a lot of kids from their Academy, so plenty of players still learning their trade. We will have to see what the rest of this year brings and what transpires next year before we second guess what Brian Noble will bring to us. I hope he does beef up the pack, haven't we all complained for years that we are too small in the forwards. With decent go forward some of our youngsters playing in the backs may also develop quicker and help us kick on to the next level.
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| Quote ="middleman"
Foran was injured not dropped, he picked up a quad injury .'"
I can only tell you what I heard and it came from the horse's mouth prior to the game Middleman.
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| I like Foran.
We would have been better with him playing yesterday.
But,at Widnes he seemed to chuck it.
When the wheels came off and we needed someone of his experience to be talking to the players,especially the kids,he seemed just to be shaking his head.
So,I think it was far more his attitude than his play that caused him to be dropped,if that's what in fact happened
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| Quote ="Bonita Red"I like Foran.
We would have been better with him playing yesterday.
But,at Widnes he seemed to chuck it.
When the wheels came off and we needed someone of his experience to be talking to the players,especially the kids,he seemed just to be shaking his head.
So,I think it was far more his attitude than his play that caused him to be dropped,if that's what in fact happened'"
It's a general fitness issue they are working on.
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| You have to think what Foran and Mauro have walked into.
They saw a club in total turmoil before they signed only for the Doc to come in at the 11th hour and rescue things then within days of getting off the plane there was Salford doing what Salford do best by getting rid of the head coach and hand over the reigns to the youth coach. Not saying getting rid of PV wasn't the right thing to do but to the two new lads they must have wondered what on earth they'd got themselves in for.
One good thing is now they have a head coach they would have heard off and in Mauros case who will without doubt use him going forward in a way he is used to in the NRL was a real workhorse.
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| I would like to applaud Alan Hunt for the way he as handled his time as temporary head coach. The younger players have been a credit to the club.
I don't believe some fans appreciate the step up these players have made. It all right blooding young players into a successful team but blooding the amount of young players Hunt & long have introduced needs to be respected.
Theo Fages, Mark Sneyd Adam Walne, Owen & yesterday I thought Niall Evalds did everything asked of him.
Big thank you & well done to Alan & Sean
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| Quote ="Early Bath"You dont like the kids do you Bonita? Your mate Nobby will be doing without them no doubt and bring in half a dozen six foot amazon mercenaries to replace them. The brand of Rugby will change no doubt to accommodate the colossuses so brought in and the young uns will have to tread water for a couple of years and then move on. However for me they have shown that they all will make it as they have been well taught.
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Brand of rugby? We've won 3 times in 20 matches. You sound like a West Ham fan going on about the 'West Ham Way' when there's no such thing. We need a coach who will make us competitive and enable us to start winning a few matches and get us away from the bottom of the league. If we have to win those matches 2-0 then I'm pretty sure you, like every other Salford fan, would be delighted.
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| Pathetic post this time Walshy. Keep up. Of course with 10 new players we will be winning again. Stevie Wonder could coach them to win. Hunt & Long have not only bravely introduced the kids but have them playing adventurous Rugby. However I am looking forward to the 6 match consecutive wins under Nobbys 5 drives and an Up & Under. Very much.
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| I'm not sure about this adventurous rugby we're supposed to be playing. We spent about 60% of the London Broncos game attacking their line and looking highly unlikely to break them. Sure. we've played some nice off the cuff stuff at times (Broughton's try on Friday) but it has looked just that - off the cuff.
I'm struggling to remember a good, slick, structured passing [umove[/u since the Holdsworth-Moon-Patten triangle was broken up.
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| Thinking about it though Sneyd would be ideal for Nobbys Up & Unders (providing they dont get charged down Bonita). One thing he does well is kick.
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