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| Well!
Clearly people in shock do and say strange things. I've only just come in from work to hear the news and I'm amazed at the reaction in some posts from 'Goodbye Salford' to lets try to get the new stadium safety licence stopped!
Maybe thirty years of watching Salford and a family history of being Salford fans for 60 years has meant that I can't be shocked any more but time to take a deep breath and calm down everyone.
No doubt a tale will emerge as to what has been going on but chances are it will describe one side of the story and depending on each fan's individual stance it will be believed or ridiculed.The fact is that Parish has gone and the short history of his tenure is nothing to judge him on either positively or negatively.
Protesting in order to stop the new stadium getting its licence is like cutting your head off to cure a headache.
Yes we need to learn from this
Yes we need to know why these things happen
Yes we need to vent our shock and, in some cases, our anger
but most of us will be there next season, moaning or cheering as is our want (and our right) and before we jump to the usual conclusion (everyone must go!) lets get the full picture and anyway according to tonight's Advertiser Parish thinks we have "one of the finest back room staffs in Super League"!
KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON
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| Quote ="middleman"Matt Parish :-
Games 6, Won 1 - Drawn 0 - Lost 5 , Points for - 96, points against - 196 .
His reputation , when it comes down to it ..'"
Is intact. Much longer at the coach's graveyard would have painted a different picture.
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| At last youve all woke up and smelt the coffee towards these muppets running our club.
Best of luck Matt thanks for bringing everything to light.
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| Matt was a prat!
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| Poster after poster states we need a different board/management. However we do not own the club. So the way we get a different set of bosses is that each one of you buy the club.
Simples.
If you can't then you are stuck with the owners.
Yes, I will rant and whinge ... but like it or not they are the board of a company and so (sadly) can sit there to take flak knowing no one on here has the financial clout to intervene and take the reins.
So you can abandon going to the entertainment business that is Salford RLFC or continue to support the near-religion that is the Red Devils.
Choice.
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| Quote ="Bonita Red"Matt was a prat!'"
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| Quote ="SRLFC JK"there is no evidence of that for 30 years.'"
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"Poster after poster states we need a different board/management. However we do not own the club. So the way we get a different set of bosses is that each one of you buy the club.
Simples.
If you can't then you are stuck with the owners.
Yes, I will rant and whinge ... but like it or not they are the board of a company and so (sadly) can sit there to take flak knowing no one on here has the financial clout to intervene and take the reins.
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Choice.'" well we are run by a set of Clowns. :
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| The board have seriously messed this one up. Cutting corners and keeping the facts and the truth from everybody. They never even had Matt Parish sign a contract so this happening was always on the cards. They filled his head full of magic and when he got here they didn't keep promises. Anybody who defends the club on this one really don't have a clue and don't know the full story. Matt was left with no option than to leave. Vent your anger at the people running this mess. They can't afford a big name to come in. They are still paying McRae for heavens sake. The club is run by amateurs.
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| did they pay your goodself off dogpie? and whats the chances of you making a shock return?
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| It appear Parish came in and told the club a few home truths that they didn't like and they decided he wasn't the man for the job (following travelling to Oz messing other coaches around whilst there and selecting Matt). How do we explain the failures of the past, Ashcroft, McInnes, Aspey, Tamati, Jack, Gregory, Harvey, McCormack, Harrison, McRae? Were they all poor coaches / managers? (Admittedly some were) Oh I know lets blame them for all the failings not the people who employ them, really?
Wayne Bennett could have taken over for those last 6 games and we'd have only won one with that shower of crap signed, not by Parish but by others. The time to have judged Matt would have been at the end of next season, he came in to someone else's team, training methods and lack of effort and was given a few matches to turn us into a world beating team! Karl Harrison came in under similar circumstances and managed just 3 wins and 1 draw from 15 matches and didn't turn out too bad for a while.
So do we want another McRae, a manager happy to think [i"well things wont change here so I'll happily just sit here for the duration of my contract and don't upset the apple cart"[/i because that's what we'll get!
I'm not saying Matt would have been a success but now we'll never know.
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| Quote ="DogPie"The board have seriously messed this one up. Cutting corners and keeping the facts and the truth from everybody. They never even had Matt Parish sign a contract so this happening was always on the cards. They filled his head full of magic and when he got here they didn't keep promises. Anybody who defends the club on this one really don't have a clue and don't know the full story. Matt was left with no option than to leave. Vent your anger at the people running this mess. They can't afford a big name to come in. They are still paying McRae for heavens sake. The club is run by amateurs.'"
There are a very small minority who like to bury their heads in the sand on this forum fella so I wouldn't hold your breath too long.
Never let the facts get in the way of a blind faithed Salford supporter . Even if Wilko has the bollox to tell it to their faces they'd still be in denial.
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| Is Dogpie a disgruntled former employee?
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| Perhaps the next self-made millionaire who wants to spend much of on Salford would like to step forward................
No..............
Thought not. Until someone does we must live with what we've got.
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| Just come in and logged on in the forlorn hope that we'd made a decent signing or Sale had disappeared from the face of the earth. What do I find? Matt Parish resigned!
How much more ineptitude can our supporters take? It doesn't matter who's to 'blame', the bottom line is ANOTHER FOOK UP at our beloved club. We all stand by and suffer in silence through season after season of disappointment. What can we do about it? Give up the game and club we love?
God it's hard being a Salford fan!!!!
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| Quote ="Rooted Red"
God it's hard being a Salford fan!!!!'"
Would you have it any other way ?
It is all part of being a Salford fan.
Maybe we all have a touch of Masochism in us
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| What a sickener for you guys!
Go and do what's right.....go get Brian Noble. He's the best person in Rugby League to steady a ship in stormy waters!!
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| Quote ="MattyB"Go and do what's right.....go get Brian Noble. He's the best person in Rugby League to steady a ship in stormy waters!!'"
Come on Brian comes across as an inteligent fella, why on earth would he want to work here
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| I liken supporting Salford to what it must have been like supporting Man City over the years. Balls up after balls up and a hint of pantomime for years. What changed it for City was simple...Cash and bucketfulls of it. Sadly that is not going to happen for Salford nor i guess any RL club. Our sport is filled with people in it for the love of the game. fans players and chairmen in the majority do it for the love of the game. Todays news is just another touch of madness in the world of Salford RLFC but i will be going to Barton, i will moan about it all, voice an opinion on whats best, slaughter anyone i deem fit for not trying..but in the end i know i will never fall out of love with Salford RLFC...whoever is in charge, whoever is wearing the shirt and whoever is wearing the daft mascots outfit this season, i will be there watching. So Matt has done one..good riddence if he did not want to stay or sorry to see you go if you were led astray after interview. Im too old to over react anymore...Roll on next season
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| Disappointed with BOTH the Club, and with Matt Parish.
Will I still be signing up for me Season ticket? ABSOLUTELY YES. The club is bigger than one man, Matt Parish is replaceable Salford RLFC IS IRREPLACEABLE.
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| Quote ="metalheadred"Disappointed with BOTH the Club.....Will I still be signing up for me Season ticket? ABSOLUTELY YES. The club is bigger than one man, Matt Parish is replaceable Salford RLFC IS IRREPLACEABLE.'"
Amen to that still not happy our big chance to turn this boat around i feel has gone, good luck to phil vieivers if he is crazy bonkers enough to take the job but he eventually will come up agaist the same problems as Matt did and we are back to square one...
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| How do any of you know that he had problems with the board. What if the story that "he has personal problems" is the truth. Unless a board member leeks a story this forum will never know the true facts. Salford are on the verge of a very exciting new era and you should all get your positive heads on. Try and forget last season and the last game at the Willows. We can't let another club in this area slip to the slippery ledge that ourselves and Swinton have been balancing on for too long. I will be there on Jan 8th as a Leyther and hopefully for a few games when I can't go away with Leigh.
I bet yor board of directors puts more money in than they get back so if they make a mistake it's their money they are waisting. Get your heads up Reds and be proud of what you have
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| Every employer over sells their company and every potential employee over sells themselves. Whilst you can't polish a turd, you can roll it in glitter. Wilky and Simms may have embellished a little (or a lot) about the club but the can bet your life that Parrish did too. He needed a job. simple. And to him, even we were a plum job.
Whilst i have sympathy for the bloke for his situation he was wrong to come out and make his greivances public. Gripes go upwards not down. All they did was endear him to a section of the crowd who expect champagne rugby on lemonade finances. I reckon he bit off more than he could chew and he very quickly realised it. The best way to direct criticism away from yourself is to criticise others. Parish got his defence in early.
As for the board, i'm sure they acknowledge they made a mistake with Parish and other aspects of running the club, but don't expect them to apologise to us or resign over it. There is a lot of criticism of them and certain individuals but we shouldn't forget, the club still exists thanks to them so they must be doing something right, even if we can't see it. Everyone thinks they can run a club/business better than those that do.
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| Nobody comes out of this looking good in my opinion
The Board/JW/SS/DT - they either misled Parish (and I've yet to see any evidence that it was more than the usual overselling of an organisation trying to recruit a new senior member of staff) and/or picked the wrong man (one they couldn't work with) and failed to manage him or the events surrounding the last few months well. All of this is amateurish and the response to the last few crises (since the 2008 relegation) hasn't involved enough introspection or culture change
Parish - clearly didn't do his homework properly or really probe the club members who recruited him. His outburst when he arrived was ill-judged. In my experience there's only one reason to do that - it puts you in a no-lose position. If you're succesful you look even better because you've told everyone how awful it was. If you fail, well success was impossible so not really your fault. I understand this and have known lots of managers/directors/consultants start with a new organisation and point out the exisiting faults for this reason (and maybe to try and shake out some complacency within the existing staff).
But to do that so publicly is unwise and then to not make any serious attempt to try and fix it totally undermines any value in having done it in the first place. It does not display good judgement
The fans - I'm old enough to remember the "Ashcroft out" chants and the ones for all the other coaches since - good, bad and mostly indifferent. We seem to forget that as a group we effectively backed the players when they turned against Harrison by calling for his sacking, which we got. We did the same with Mcrae. For the period of him being in charge the players underperformance was because of Mcrae. When Mcrae said our payers weren't good enough to play champagne rugby we slated him - it's his job to make them good enough we said.
But when Parish (allegedly) mismanages the players and says similar things then he is right to do so and the players need to grow a pair and improve. We can't have it both ways. We now have fans who seem to think that trying to bankrupt the club or get rid of the people who keep the club (just) afloat financially is the way to cure the ills. This is lunacy until there is a viable alternative
It seems to me that we bought too easily into the myth of Matt before we had seen how things were going to turn out. That does us no credit at all
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