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| It's all gone very quiet regarding the proposed re structure for next season.
Is it still going to be all change or, can we afford to fund the current model after all.
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| Next season is so far away. No reason why they can't look at this say a month before it starts?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Next season is so far away. No reason why they can't look at this say a month before it starts?'"
Sounds about right. Give everyone time to make plans and ensure that they dont go bust when the funding stops (or shrinks to the size of a gnats chuff).
Maybe they want to make sure that none of the favoured few are in strife, either in terms of "promotion" candidates or at the wrong end of the SL table.
Who knows, we may have a resurgent Toronto or other N. American club(s) to throw in the mix.
Once again RL looking like a well run sport with a long term strategy .
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| We have no structure. As far as my eyes have always seen, we seem to play it by ear.
We don't even keep our legends involved in the game.
We choose the likes of Barrie and Terry over the likes of Schofield and Sculthorpe.
The Australians are so far in front of us at this sport it's embarrassing. We're either the second or third best nation at this sport on the planet yet we've not even challenged to be the best nation for 50 years.
I'll take nothing less than us winning the World Cup this year, anything less will be just as much as a failure as we've produced as a nation for the past 50 years.
It's time to stand up. That includes the Super league competition that needs to become far more competitive. Some of the clubs we have are embarrassing themselves. Time for other clubs to get to the level of St Helens and Wigan.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"It's all gone very quiet regarding the proposed re structure for next season.
Is it still going to be all change or, can we afford to fund the current model after all.'"
We can fund the current model because the rich club owners have very kindly put more into the game, especially a host of Championship club owners that are queuing up to try to get promotion to Superleague in what will be a very exciting Championship. The SL chairmen have chased other deals and outlets to show our games and have had success there, but hey let's not give credit where credit is due.
We can just make ourselves on here sound superior to them by slagging them off
Next season is looking good for the Superleague and the Championship which ultimately is Superleague 2.
As for League one, that will be where the real struggle will be.......
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| Quote ="Donnyman"We can fund the current model because the rich club owners have very kindly put more into the game, especially a host of Championship club owners that are queuing up to try to get promotion to Superleague in what will be a very exciting Championship. The SL chairmen have chased other deals and outlets to show our games and have had success there, but hey let's not give credit where credit is due.
We can just make ourselves on here sound superior to them by slagging them off
Next season is looking good for the Superleague and the Championship which ultimately is Superleague 2.
As for League one, that will be where the real struggle will be.......'"
Is that a "no" to any change next season or, are we going to go with the proposed 2 x 10 structure ?
As for looking at other avenues, of course we should and this shouldn't just be when our backs are against the wall.
The next Sky deal is a huge drop and although the "hole" may be filled by some of the more wealthy backers using more of their cash, is this where the game is at .
As mentioned in the opening post. it's all gone very, very quiet and if there is to be significant change, the clubs, players and of course the fans should be informed about what may be
happening to the game.
As for the poster who suggests it's this year for the world cup or else. He must have been in hibernation.
It would take a miracle for England to lift the trophy. With our primary asset, the pack, getting older / retiring and with the new players not just as strong, s semi final exit is the best that we can realistically hope for.
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| decision will be made when the 'to be relegated' club is known.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"
Is that a "no" to any change next season or, are we going to go with the proposed 2 x 10 structure ?
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As it stands clearly "NO" unless you think it would be acceptable at this late time, the RFL/SL coming out and saying something like 3 clubs will be relegated this season from SL...
Are you worrying about Wakey
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| Quote ="Donnyman"We can fund the current model because the rich club owners have very kindly put more into the game, especially a host of Championship club owners that are queuing up to try to get promotion to Superleague in what will be a very exciting Championship. The SL chairmen have chased other deals and outlets to show our games and have had success there, but hey let's not give credit where credit is due.
We can just make ourselves on here sound superior to them by slagging them off
Next season is looking good for the Superleague and the Championship which ultimately is Superleague 2.
As for League one, that will be where the real struggle will be.......'"
Quite close,by your standards.
Some Championship clubs have overspend after falsely believing they had to finish in the Top 8 for the 2023 campaign- this no longer the case.
The RFL would appear to have negotiated,and won, the broadcast deals.
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| Quote ="maurice"decision will be made when the 'to be relegated' club is known.'"
IF SL is going down to 10 clubs AND there is still to be promotion from The Championship, there will be 3 clubs relegated and that's before some bright spark decides that "other criteria" are more important than results.
Given the success of the last 2 changes in format, RL really needs another restructure, the games profile is coming on leaps and bounds
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| Quote ="Donnyman"We can fund the current model because the rich club owners have very kindly put more into the game, especially a host of Championship club owners that are queuing up to try to get promotion to Superleague in what will be a very exciting Championship'"
Leigh or Featherstone......last year was Toulouse of Featherstone......time before was Toronto of Featherstone......the other 12 clubs won't be close. Owners of Championship clubs, Derek the deck boy aside, put in enough to keep the lights on......superleague would cripple most of them.
Quote ="Donnyman"The SL chairmen have chased other deals and outlets to show our games and have had success there, but hey let's not give credit where credit is due. '"
Superleague games on FTA was a no.brqiner and should have been written into broadcast rights 2 decades ago.
Quote ="Donnyman"We can just make ourselves on here sound superior to them by slagging them off
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I'll applaud them when they do something cutting edge that's not designed to circle the wagons....
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Next season is looking good for the Superleague and the Championship which ultimately is Superleague 2.'"
If you want to compare Leeds v Wigan to Batley v Whitehaven by all means go ahead, but I'll stick with the top tier and the second tier...neither which are very super at present.
Quote ="Donnyman" As for League one, that will be where the real struggle will be.......'"
On that we can agree. What the top teams fail to realise is that we aren't football....there isn't the depth of support for the game at grass roots and without central funding, the game will contract further.
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| Quote ="Donnyman"As it stands clearly "NO" unless you think it would be acceptable at this late time, the RFL/SL coming out and saying something like 3 clubs will be relegated this season from SL...
Are you worrying about Wakey
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Been there, done that, got the T shirt, hence starting the thread.
Clearly, plenty of notice should be given to any major changes in format, especially if this means culling clubs from the comp (in any league).
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Been there, done that, got the T shirt, hence starting the thread.
Clearly, plenty of notice should be given to any major changes in format, especially if this means culling clubs from the comp (in any league).'"
Sorry for not replying sooner, the idiot troll "orangeman (etc)" above put me off bothering...................
It will be interesting to see if the loss of TV money has any great effect at the top. Certainly the lower divisions have taken a big hit, and you can expect Superleague to sacrifice the lower clubs for the top clubs all day long.
Restructure at the top? No. No league one in a year or two - maybe..........
Hope your clubs ground improvements give a new impetus to the club........
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Sorry for not replying sooner, the idiot troll "orangeman (etc)" above put me off bothering....................'"
Idiot? Troll?
My my Donnyboy.....you don't half fit right into the stereotypical flat cap northern monkey bracket.....anything outside your bus-pass not to be trusted.
As a southern fan of RL, who has lamented the decline of RL as a tie 1 sport, I find it incredulous that moth eaten attitudes like yours still persist....Superleague to your average sports fan in England now is Women's Soccer, whilst there's still only 1 rugby code that attracts bumper viewing figures come Feb/March.....but you'd be happy so long as you can get home from an away game in time for your supper
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| Quote ="orangeman"Idiot? Troll?
My my Donnyboy.....you don't half fit right into the stereotypical flat cap northern monkey bracket.....anything outside your bus-pass not to be trusted.
As a southern fan of RL, who has lamented the decline of RL as a tie 1 sport, I find it incredulous that moth eaten attitudes like yours still persist....Superleague to your average sports fan in England now is Women's Soccer, whilst there's still only 1 rugby code that attracts bumper viewing figures come Feb/March.....but you'd be happy so long as you can get home from an away game in time for your supper
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Poor Donnyman, he’s having a really hard time, 2 x french teams in super league and Catalan have a new Tv deal.
Its people like him with his constantly calling everyone a troll who does not fit their agenda that have made killed this forum and turned it into the equivalent of the BDO Darts.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Poor Donnyman, Its people like him that have killed this forum and turned it into the equivalent of the BDO Darts.'"
Your not him as well are you
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| 10 clubs will be boring, why do I or any other punter want to see Wire play Castleford or Hull KR 3 times a season (4 if there's a CC fixture, 5 if we make the playoffs and happen to meet them)?
No offence to those clubs, I could have picked any two.
Most exciting season I remember had 16 teams in it. Why not bring back the Featherstones, the Leighs, the Sheffields and so on and create some variety? I've heard the argument about there not being enough quality players, give them a few years in the top flight and they'd compete.
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| Quote ="davids"10 clubs will be boring, why do I or any other punter want to see Wire play Castleford or Hull KR 3 times a season (4 if there's a CC fixture, 5 if we make the playoffs and happen to meet them)?
No offence to those clubs, I could have picked any two.
Most exciting season I remember had 16 teams in it. Why not bring back the Featherstones, the Leighs, the Sheffields and so on and create some variety? I've heard the argument about there not being enough quality players, give them a few years in the top flight and they'd compete.'"
There isnt enough money in the game for a 16 team division.
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| Quote ="davids"10 clubs will be boring, why do I or any other punter want to see Wire play Castleford or Hull KR 3 times a season (4 if there's a CC fixture, 5 if we make the playoffs and happen to meet them)?
No offence to those clubs, I could have picked any two.
Most exciting season I remember had 16 teams in it. Why not bring back the Featherstones, the Leighs, the Sheffields and so on and create some variety? I've heard the argument about there not being enough quality players, give them a few years in the top flight and they'd compete.'"
I think nearly all fans will agree with you here, but owners of the SL clubs won't want to share the reduced SKY money more ways. Leigh and Featherstone would be great additions both clubs are well backed and work very hard year on year at trying to get into/established in Superleague. Must go before you know who turns up again.....
Enjoy the new season...........
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Poor Donnyman, he’s having a really hard time, 2 x french teams in super league and Catalan have a new Tv deal.
Its people like him with his [uconstantly calling everyone a troll who does not fit their agenda[/u that have made killed this forum and turned it into the equivalent of the BDO Darts.'"
Quote ="Donnyman"Your not him as well are you
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So, the self appointed troll hunter who has killed the forum gets called out and immediately incorrectly call out yet another poster, purely for a differing opinions....
It's a real shame, because there used to be real debate here....
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| Quote ="Donnyman"I think nearly all fans will agree with you here, but owners of the SL clubs won't want to share the reduced SKY money more ways. Leigh and Featherstone would be great additions both clubs are well backed and work very hard year on year at trying to get into/established in Superleague. Must go before you know who turns up again.....
Enjoy the new season...........'"
I could have sworn that Leigh were in SL last season and Fev just needed to beat Toulouse on their own patch to secure a SL spot.
On a related issue, their game on Monday (Fev v Leigh) is going to be one of the most important games of the season.
It's hard to see too far beyond those two for the promotion spot.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I could have sworn that Leigh were in SL last season and Fev just needed to beat Toulouse on their own patch to secure a SL spot.
On a related issue, their game on Monday (Fev v Leigh) is going to be one of the most important games of the season.
It's hard to see too far beyond those two for the promotion spot.'"
It's early day yet, but those two would seem to be the safe bets. I expect both teams to lose games though and come the MPG, home advantage could play a major part, so consistency throughout the season will be key
Fev will play basic 5 + a kick big Mac rugby ....Leigh might be slightly less direct....2 contrasting styles and as I say, bot will lose to "other sides" this year.
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