Listening to the sky mob bang on about Warrington you'd think they were 30-0 up or something

Yes its been an improvement from wire but Wigan have been abysmal but yet they are bigging wire up something rotten here
Be funny if Wigan rattled battered them in the 2nd half just to hear what they say then

We have been absolutely woeful and pathetic, they should be up 30-0 not 13-0!

That's my point, they were making out that wire had blown Wigan away on the way to a massive lead when in reality they should have been more than 6-0 which it was when I wrote it
It was as much Wigan's errors rather anything good from Warrington

Wire played ok, Wigan not so good. Week off for teams can potentially damage a team. On the other hand if Wigan turn up, people will just say Wigan had weeks rest and it damaged wire in 2nd half.

How was that not a penalty?

Went to the video ref to see if a player was pulled back but not to see if a player was crushered and punched twice in the face? Awesome.

Warrington have a hand in the way Wigan are playing to be fair even though Wigan have a hand in there too.
It's not the best of games but if Warrington lose there top 8 hopes will take a huge blow. They are playing like a top 4 side though. Just shows how close this league is.

Not enjoying a lot of Sims play and tactics. Didn't see him as a dirty player.

Think this game just sums up the quality of SL this year. I'd argue that Wire and Wigan have played some of the most exciting attacking rugby the past few years but this year they both seem to have gone off the boil.

Grief Wane get's less coherent everytime I hear him speak.

...."you need a strong referee when you come here"
Really? I'd think the last thing Wigan need under their current coach is a "strong referee".....

We battered Wigan physically. They were woeful because they likely wanted to get the ball away as quick as possible as they knew any second they'd be flattened. Wigan appeared very skittish to me. We weren't great with ball in hand, Myler's try was pure luck. But we absolutely dominated a Wigan team that likes to be physically intimidating, and we did it with a patched up side after a 5 day versus 13 day turn around. I think that is where the praise is. The only thing Wigan did right today was Smith's kicking.

Thought it was a good game. The intensity in defence brought about many of the errors from both teams. Exactly the kind of game we want as we want our players to face aggressive defences and learn how to deal with them. Forced both Smith & Myler to kick far better than they have most of the season so far.

I'm sure both sides would rather their attack had been better though.

Thought Warrington beat Wigan at their own game.

Awful game. Wigan are so bad away from the DW.

Has there ever been a worse Wigan pack than this current one?

Tell you what though Wanes dig at the ref was just. He gave nothing today, how it didn't explode is beyond me. So much childish behaviour on show from both sides, Westwood and Sims were funny, both had totally lost it and would have been sent off if Wigan could have mustered any kind of meaningful opposition.

Didn't manage to watch the game, but our away form is worrying to say the least. I really don't understand how a team can be so good playing on one particular field, then dreadful on any other. Our only convincing performances away from the DW have been at the magic and Huddersfield.

We've definitely had worse packs down the years, I think we have a decent pack actually, we showed on good Friday that we can compete with the best and even at Langtree Park I thought we were on top for periods of the game. I wonder if all the uproar from the Ben Flower red card, and the subsequent criticism of Wane after the World Club Challenge film, has taken the sting out of us a little.

I don't think the players can physically do what Wane is asking of them. For the last couple of years they've been asked to run through brick walls by Wane and it worked. But I don't think players can always reach that peak of physical dominance over another team that Wane wants. I just don't think players bodies are up to it, game after game, season after season.

Oh yes.

The one that got relegated in 1979-80 for starters.

Who else remembers Steve Breheny, Nicky Kiss, Steve O'Neill, Billy Melling, Terry Hollingsworth, John Pendlebury with such stellar talents at Mick Rennox, Malcolm Smith, Dave Regan, John Clough and Mick Nanyn as back up ?

Dennis Boyd was ace though.

Their back row is pretty strong. Their props are just awful though with regards to carrying the ball. Flower, Crosby, Mossop, Sutton and Tautai carried the ball for 318m yesterday, making 5 tackle busts. Alex Walsmley is averaging 141m per match on his own! He's also averaging 4 tackle busts a match. I don't see how they can expect to compete with the big teams with such a poor front row.

It's no secret our 2015 props are soft as s***. You could pick a pack off this forum to outmuscle them.

Wigan's props are all defensive props, they don't have one prop who gives consistent go-forward, and their play makers are too one dimensional to compensate for their lack of space the forwards don't create.

I enjoyed that match - bit scrappy in places and not a lot of skill on show, but plenty of blood and thunder, and a manful display from Wire after a short turnaround; they out Wigan'd Wigan, which is quite satisfying.

Am I the only one however getting a bit sick of hearing Mr Thaler sneering at the players to "Gerrup - play the ball?!" He seems to have decided to take a stance against milking but in my view, has taken that way too far; he ignores some fairly blatant infringements in the tackle/ruck for the sake of avoiding being old-manned, and it causes escalation - if the Wigan players had the energy, that game could have boiled over at several points.

That said, I thought Wane's comments were disingenuous - "you need a strong ref when you come here?" I would have thought that the last thing Wigan want is a strong ref...

A strong ref would've sent Sims off for a shoulder to the face and then 2 sly punches on a half-back!

Any prop forward putting in sly punches on a HB should be sent off. My daughter would have laughed at taking them. Unless you're going to break his jaw you're not a proper prop. However as it was against Wigan & it has contributed to the pie board's biennial meltdown & 'falling out of love with the game' I will embrace it.