which other sports hand pick teams to promote and relegate against criteria that can be changed to suit their choices,

any examples ?

as was said earlier, supporters go to watch what happens on the field and not to admire the plastic seats.

the simple fact is that no rl team can afford to build a quality stadium without outside help. even in the good times there is simply not enough money in our game.

how many teams have any assets now compared to 20years ago when most owned their own grounds?

the game is becoming very nomadic

There is a little known game on the other side of the pond you may of heard of? The NFL, thats one example

That's the thing cc us the fans don't care about stadiums , both Belle Vue and Wheldon Rd are fine for the use they being used for

Your relegation match against Cas could have seen either of you refused back into SL , in fact ( and this is me with my ' conspiracy theory ' hat on ) I believe that if it was Wakey that had gone down , you would already be in the Championship , IMO the RFL felt guilty over the W1g4n salary cap fiasco and changed the rules as recompense

im pretty sure no truly new teams have ever been added to the NFL. they have all been mergers and moves of existing teams/founder members.

There is a second tier in NFL?

Games fooked,dress it up as much as you like,switch on the tv all you see is empty grounds at international and domestic level and the best thing is super league are giving any season tickets at next to nothing and still can't fill the grounds


good luck with the de valuing of the game with ever decresing season ticket prices,at this rate they will be letting them in for nothing and still not filling the grounds

but as long as a handul of clubs are happy spending a ever skrinking tv deal then thats fine

we will wander off and die quietly in the cornor if thats alright with you lot

please tell me who are these clubs and business falling over themselves to form new teams in new parts of the country,come on name them?

keep chopping at the roots and you may find you lot may fall out of your lofty perches up that tree when it topples

Speaking of pillocks, I know you are well aware that Crusaders were also allowed in to SL playing in Brewery Field on a short-term basis with a view to new stadium, as were Cas and Wakefield.

except they dont go, Thats part of the problem.

There seems to be a direct correllation between the quality of stadia and attendances, they go up when they are better. When it is crap they are smaller.

thats why Wakefield and Castleford have such fantastic attendances. I mean its not like they are surrounded by clubs in better stadiums with better attendances is it?

Oh!

The Seahawks, The Bucs, the Jaguars and the Panthers were all added to the league as genuine expansion sides and not as the result of a merger or movement of an existing club.

Yet attendances in this era are higher than at any other time


Yet attendances are still higher.
Yet the TV deal is worth more.

Quietly?????? Bloody Hell.

Wales, London, Perpignan, Toulouse.

Yet the lower leagues get more money and exposure than ever before. Strange idea of chopping at the roots you have.

All additions have been brand new teams, or moves of other teams. I don't believe there have been any mergers, apart from some temporary ones in WW2.

The point is teams don't play their way into the league by winning a different league.

Do you think their fans decry their sport as having no credibility because of this?

Times, and circumstances change.

Again, I'm proud to be a Leyther.

They were allowed in to SL with a stadium that you felt was worse than two existing SL clubs? And now they play at a better one? Well then, of course that makes our sport a joke

American football, basketball, baseball, amateur rugby league, rugby union, formala one, soccer, motorsports. How any do you want?

You missed out semi-professional rugby league - when was the last time they let anybody join their competition from the lower one, based solely on onfield performance?

relevance?

Oh, and cricket.

I think he's right. Until there is 6/7 Clubs that are run, supported, and playing well enough to compete in Super League, it'll never happen. Only Widnes can at the moment.

It appears Starbug will only be happy when people agree with his opinion that the game below SL is doomed in a matter of time. I don't understand why people with this much negative feeling towards something actually bother to follow the sport?

A ' short term ' basis ?

They had a piece of paper with some drawings on them for a possible stadium to be built in a few years time

Cas and Wakey had the same thing several years earlier

How long is ' short term ' , ? Maybe you should apply the same logic to your arguments about HKR s production of players

Utter bollox , and you know it

So if that is the case why even bother setting minimum standards , other clubs spent money to comply , then the RFL to avoid embarrassment change their own criteria to suit

Keep ' pretending ' you believe what you are posting , one day you might just start believing it