Ever read the AUP on this site??

You might want to edit your post a bit??

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Entirely up to you though.

So.....I have acted in a racist manner by calling you a crim? Mate, if it helps, you're actually a crim Troll and a bad one at that, Boo Hoo....help me mods, I've posted my way into an argument I can't win and the big bad nasty Gutterfax is calling me names.....boo hoo..
Get a grip man and grow a set.
By the way...still waiting for the linky linky Skippy


Are you and your sensitive mates having trouble comprehending the idea of FACTS over FICTION?

Quote ="gutterfax"Linky Linky cobber...... it's getting like the "I've been banned" crap from earlier. All I want is a link to reputable site that says we were bailed out by the rfl? It isn't brain surgery. Oh.....you can't be bothered = there isn't one. The knuckle dragging anti-expansionists have banged on about this "bail out" for years but I have yet to EVER SEE PROOF that it happened'" www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2005/ma ... perleaguex This may help. Basically its as I said earlier. London Broncos were in financial strife. They were bailed out by the chairman and the financial controller of the RFL after brokering a deal between various people.

Quote ="gutterfax"Linky Linky cobber...... it's getting like the "I've been banned" crap from earlier. All I want is a link to reputable site that says we were bailed out by the rfl? It isn't brain surgery. Oh.....you can't be bothered = there isn't one. The knuckle dragging anti-expansionists have banged on about this "bail out" for years but I have yet to EVER SEE PROOF that it happened'" www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2005/ma ... perleaguex This may help. Basically its as I said earlier. London Broncos were in financial strife. They were bailed out by the chairman and the financial controller of the RFL after brokering a deal between various people.

Not really, no.

Well what happened was this.....

London Broncos ran out of money.

Probably the fact they were pretty bad and hardly anyone turned up to watch had a lot to do with it.

So in order to survive they got the RFL involved.


They managed to get the Rugby Football League's executive chairman Richard Lewis and his financial controller Nigel Wood to bail them out by persuading at least six of the other 11 Superleague clubs to support the clubs top idea of making themselves bankrupt thereby discharging all their £3 million debts.

Now we have 'Harlequins RL'


A great side who pull in massive crowds every week and are regularly competing for the challenge cup and are one of the top 2 teams in the whole wide world





Thats about it in a nutshell.

No...what was said in this article
1. The Broncos seemed to be heading for extinction for most of the day, with huge reluctance among their Super League rivals . This is actually supposition. Unless of course Andy Wilson was going to name names, he decided to get a little creative and in a court of Law....would get ripped to shreds!
2. But with the backing of the Rugby Football League's executive chairman Richard Lewis and his financial controller Nigel Wood, the London club's chief executive Nic Cartwright persuaded at least six of the other 11 clubs to support the club's plan during a four-hour meeting at the Galpharm Stadium in Huddersfield. . so, the RFL didn't bail us out. They helped NC convince 6 other clubs to let us stay in. Still no bail out as I can see......let's read on shall we.
3. The Broncos were so close to the brink that an approach was made to Castleford, who were relegated from the Super League last season, about the possibility of returning to take London's placeMmmm....at this point, I think Andy needed to put the cap back on his marker pen. Firstly the RFL were bailing us out. Now they were getting cas ready to step in....make your mind up lad....but wait...there's more...
4. But a majority of the clubs have put the retention of a London presence ahead of the potentially dangerous precedent that the Broncos' financial manoeuvres will set. . So...it was the clubs that voted us back in. There was me thinking it was the RFL



So cobber...I am still waiting for a Linky Linky that contains cold hard facts and not journalistic supposition.

Gutter.

That article appeared in the Guardian







I know you are probably more of a Daily Sport /Beano type guy but trust me.

The Guardian is a pretty accurate paper.



Basically the RFL bailed you out.

You know it.

I know it.


You have been owned AGAIN .. just like you were on your own board.


Move on

Gutterfax has convered most of it.

And according to the article, they were also asked to put up a significant bond - with financial conditions imposed on them.

So, not bailing out in any conventional interpretation of the term.

Somebody obviously does.

My answer to your question, No.

Rugby League needs to expand to survive long term as most other sports are going from strength so we need to follow suit.

Ignoring the facts.......check
Repeating falsehoods until proven wrong, then changing the argument....check
Pretending to be australian.......check
Obvious trolling.....check
No coherent argument......check


I think the answer is pretty clear


Hi dally messenger, that username not getting the bites anymore!

Without the big boys from the RFL getting involved London would have been toast

Thats being 'bailed out' by the RFL in my book




Anyway this is getting off topic now.

No more talk about London RL PLEASE

Without the other SL clubs voting to include them they would have been toast, too.

Without any number of things they would have been toast.



You need a new book. Preferably one with lots of pictures and few long words, I think.

Now....just so we're clear here.
Because an article, that essentially is 90% supposition appears in The Guardian....that makes it 100% fact does it? Mmm...Interesting concept that.
I actually read the Telegraph....but for what it's worth, the are are some great T1Ts in the Sport....massive....no really huge, but none as big as you. Regardless of what you THINK went on in 2005 between the SL chairmen, lewis and the broncos....you can't (AND I HAVE REPEATEDLY ASKED FOR THIS) provide 1 link that backs up your assertion that we were bailed out.
Even when you try to be clever by posting things like:

...which is an obvious and clumsy attempt to use the word financial and bail to imply that we were "bailed out"
As for being owned....PMSL...no really.....PMSL....
You can't win this argument.....no matter how many times you post supposition, you aren't posting fact and fact will always win an argument.
Back atcha sport

By the way...If I stop posting in a minute it's because I have arrived back in London on one of the beardy b@st@rds trains and will be going underground....But don't fret my little crim.....I'll be back tomorrow if you want to keep on digging

So what do you want shouild we just give up & let the game die? The moment the game went full time pro in Australia (because it had the support as the number one sport) the rest of the world went to hell no longer would a team of semi pro players from France be able to win a test series Against the mighty Kangaroos. In the 60s & 70s semi pro players from clubs in the UK playing to similar crowds as they do today could hold thier own & often bettered the Aussies but since we have had to compete with fulltime players it has been a struggle as in the first few years we lost older players who had good jobs & would not give them up for a couple of years full time pay. Being a full time pro sportsman in the UK has never untill now be something to aspire to, the schools system would certainly not promote sport as a carreer so we have nearly thirty years to catch up with the southern hemisphere & I would not look to them to help as they are self promoting head in the sand zenophobes who dont even realise there is a world outside of the Sydney leagues & would not care if they did know. As for the good people of Driffield watching Rules I bet they would, but not week in week out as it would take a couple of generations for it to enter the local culture which is what is hapening slowly in London & that is why we have to keep on trying in non traditional areas other wise we will be swamped by soccer & Union.

Ok champ



Try reading the original post properly and it might spare you from embarrassing yourself in front of the board in future.

If you cant see how the RFL bailed your sorry excuse for a club out then you really are incredibly stupid.


This thread is not purely about London RL.

If you want to discuss London then it might be best to stick to your own forum.

The one which despite what you say I am banned from and have no way of getting involved in anything you say (thank god!)

Lets end our communication here

Thanks






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Or you're using "bailed out" in a very peculiar way for this context.

But there again, there's confusion regarding your status on the 'Quins board; you say you're banned, the mods say you're not.

'Bailed out' doesnt necessarily involve directly giving someone money.



I don't care if I'm still banned from the Quins board or not.

I'm surprised they did ban me though. I said nothing offensive.

I think they could do with all the posts they can get

Let's deal with this one first shall we.
Regardless of what you THINK happened, you have yet to deliver any proof. At no stage did I offer my opinion of what did or didn't happen....I just asked you for proof to back up yours. Hope that's cleared that one up.



Mate....you continue to make yourself look like a biger knob every time you say this. At least 3 mods have confirmed you are not banned. God knows, we don't get enough people on our board (like our ground)...so WTF would we ban you. CLEAR ENOUGH 4 U?


WHY....when it is bringing joy to so many people.
You sir, have started a row.....when you thought you were losing, posted a link to a nothing story, quoted the AUP and called me racist, claimed to have owned me, claimed to have been banned from the Quins boards and HAVE STILL FAILED TO BACK UP ANY OF YOUR ASSUMPTIONS.

Please don't go....I really am having fun (stuck outside Euston on a Virgin train with free internet)

I find it highly ironic that the OP slates 'Londoners' for not going along to support Quins yet refuses to offer his support when he 'lives' in London himself.

what's up Bazza? Oh....sorry, it's last orders, so you must be busy

In the context of a financial meltdown, such as the former Broncos underwent, then it certainly [idoes[/i mean financial help. You know this, but you're desperately trying to twist the term to somehow come out of this looking like you're not just blathering on.

From the ever-dubious Wikipedia: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailout[iA bailout is an act of giving capital to a failing company in order to save it from bankruptcy, insolvency, or total liquidation and ruin[/i[/url

[url=http://www.forbes.com/2008/09/26/bailout-congress-bush-biz-beltway-cx_bw_0926bailout2.htmlHere's an example from Forbes using just that term, where it's quite clear it means a financial rescue package[/url[url=http://financial-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/bailout.[/url

Have I gone back in time or something. I thought I switched the flux capacitor off last night?!?!

The arguement has been and gone. The game needs to expand for many reasons. Wales and London are good places to expand to with volume of potential speccies, players and sponsors.
South of France is just as crazy for Rugby League as North England so why kick them out. They are doing well, it's helping French rugby which will ultimately help us.

What's the big deal anyway. If Widnes or anyone else is good enough bring them in. Why target someone else just because they are not you?

Same post has been discussed about Wakefield and Cas....blah blah

In answer to the quesion to this post, it will never happen resons why:

Harlequins will never be thrown out cos Sky will pull the plug if there is not a Super League team in London.

You have to have a token Welsh/French team in because hey they would do the same in every other sport in the world and then relegate the team that does not actually finish bottom or is it just Rugbt League??

They need to find more ways of making this sport more embarrassing than it already is at the moment.