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| Quote ="Willzay"The same Lindsay Hoyle who let Boris and co lie in Parliament the past 18 months with no repercussions? That Lindsay Hoyle?'"
Which has nothing to do with rugby league so go post it in the sin bin with the rest of the champagne socialists
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| Quote ="Poky"Which has nothing to do with rugby league so go post it in the sin bin with the rest of the champagne socialists'"
I’m not sure whether or not I’m a champagne socialist....can you help me with the criteria please. Cheers.
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| Quote ="Poky"Which has nothing to do with rugby league so go post it in the sin bin with the rest of the champagne socialists'"
lol.
One thing the internet has delivered in spades is the ability for folk who lost an election or referendum to sound relevant.
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| Quote ="Poky"Which has nothing to do with rugby league so go post it in the sin bin with the rest of the champagne socialists'"
Ok facist
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| Quote ="orangeman"It's shrinking with age.
Attending sport (or any form of audience event) is a habit formed over years. The Problem with League is that the Grand Parents still attend, but their kids drifted or were tempted by something else and therefore the grandkids are lost to the game......we've already lost a generation and trying to attract a new one when all they'll see when they arrive is old white blokes en masse is hardly going to grab them by the wallet!
There's no quick fix and an independent review will simply tell us what we already know. The game without SKY TV as a professional entity in the UK is buggered!
As for the NRL. They average 15k at games. Given a large number of teams are a cross town bus ride away, that's pretty shocking and nothing to be crowing about.'"
Yes but they also generate ratings on TV hence broadcasters are happy to hand over hundreds of millions to broadcast the game. We have low attendances and a game where broadcasters are not exactly fighting for TV rights.
The terrestrial TV channel can't even show weekly highlights before midnight and the same national broadcaster doesn't even broadcast the programme nationally.
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| Quote ="puroresu_boy"Yes but they also generate ratings on TV hence broadcasters are happy to hand over hundreds of millions to broadcast the game..'"
The NRL are just fortunate that Football of the association type, has started late over there in terms if a viable career and are happier playing over the summer months.
Both the AFL and NRL have to beware, as the wendyballers are looking at moving their season to align with Europe, meaning a fair amount of cross over between the codes and no matter if you like soccer or not, it is HUGE and it's only a mater of time before 'soccer moms" want their kids playing the safer of the codes.
As for the NRL's dominance of the airwaves....It's not the broadcasters paying top dollar. It's their advertisers. Once the advertisers continue their drift towards other media all sports will need to look to their own fanbases for revenue streams.
But you're right in comparing the NRL to what SL has to offer......a glance at the global brands in 'straya compared to here is terrifying.
[urlhttps://www.nrl.com/about-us/partners/[/url
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[urlhttps://www.superleague.co.uk/[/url very bottom of the page
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| Quote ="orangeman"The NRL are just fortunate that Football of the association type, has started late over there in terms if a viable career and are happier playing over the summer months.
Both the AFL and NRL have to beware, as the wendyballers are looking at moving their season to align with Europe, meaning a fair amount of cross over between the codes and no matter if you like soccer or not, it is HUGE and it's only a mater of time before 'soccer moms" want their kids playing the safer of the codes.
As for the NRL's dominance of the airwaves....It's not the broadcasters paying top dollar. It's their advertisers. Once the advertisers continue their drift towards other media all sports will need to look to their own fanbases for revenue streams.
But you're right in comparing the NRL to what SL has to offer......a glance at the global brands in 'straya compared to here is terrifying.
[urlhttps://www.nrl.com/about-us/partners/[/url
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[urlhttps://www.superleague.co.uk/[/url very bottom of the page'"
Australia will always have the problem that the USA has in the sense soccer will never be able to match the salaries what people can earn playing other sports.
The USA has plenty of kids playing the game but up till a certain age and then they stop.
It's too difficult to create a domestic league which can pay huge salaries when the competition has European soccer to compete with. The best players will always be in European soccer and the worlds eyes will always be on European soccer.
China threw billions at trying to create a high quality league and the end result has been it was a waste of money as the rest of the world will have no interest in it
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| Regardless of his politics, much of what Hoyle has said is bang on.
The one certainty is that, without additional / new investment, RL is screwed and will struggle to remain a full time sport in this country.
Every other sport has championed their international program and RL has, largely, done the opposite.
There was some effort with the 4 nations but, this dwindled and died, due to the Aussies not thinking it worth while.
So many issues and so many problems to solve and it may almost be beyond the tipping point.
The huge reduction in the TV deal may be another nail in the coffin lid.
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| Quote ="Poky"Which has nothing to do with rugby league so go post it in the sin bin with the rest of the champagne socialists'"
It has everything to do with RL A gutless lying career criminal much like most of those pretending to give a crud about our health and wellbeing in the HoC and HoL, someone who is complicit with the spread of lies and fear porn issued by the government that has harmed the nation immeasurably and irrevocably including rugby league.
I don't want this scum anywhere near the sport in any shape or form, the question is, why are you so accepting of this political terrorist attaching himself to our sport when he's aided its demise amongst many other aspects in our society?
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| Quote ="Willzay"The same Lindsay Hoyle who let Boris and co lie in Parliament the past 18 months with no repercussions? That Lindsay Hoyle?'"
You’re like a cracked record and not a very good one
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| Quote ="Willzay"Ok facist'"
He’s right though and when he’s right you must really be wrong.
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| Quote ="BumpyMcbump"It has everything to do with RL A gutless lying career criminal much like most of those pretending to give a crud about our health and wellbeing in the HoC and HoL, someone who is complicit with the spread of lies and fear porn issued by the government that has harmed the nation immeasurably and irrevocably including rugby league.
I don't want this scum anywhere near the sport in any shape or form, the question is, why are you so accepting of this political terrorist attaching himself to our sport when he's aided its demise amongst many other aspects in our society?'"
No it has absolutely nothing to do with RL, it was one mans opinion on a single issue, get a grip or save it for some Twitter virtual echo chamber. I’m sure you’ll be most welcome.
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| Quote ="vastman"He’s right though and when he’s right you must really be wrong.'"
Not really we shouldn’t be taking advice from Johnson’s puppet.
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| Quote ="vastman"You’re like a cracked record and not a very good one
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Obsessed much?
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| Quote ="Willzay"Obsessed much?'"
mmm I think that’s what I was suggesting you are cracked record.
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| NHS certainly have a job on trying to remove your head from your own ars3 bigmouth.
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| Quote ="Willzay"NHS certainly have a job on trying to remove your head from your own ars3 bigmouth.'"
Seriously you’re a joke with the purple sixth form politics, another one that can give it but can’t take it tut tut
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| To be honest mate, I don’t really care. You’re the one who needs the last word to make yourself feel big. You’ve got some weird superiority complex in the Wakefield forum that we might as well change the name to Vastys echo chamber.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Regardless of his politics, much of what Hoyle has said is bang on. The one certainty is that, without additional / new investment, RL is screwed and will struggle to remain a full time sport in this country. Every other sport has championed their international program and RL has, largely, done the opposite.
There was some effort with the 4 nations but, this dwindled and died, due to the Aussies not thinking it worth while. The huge reduction in the TV deal may be another nail in the coffin lid.'"
Yes but the vast majority of people in the game have already said what Hoyle has said......It doesn't mean Hoyle and his "independent" panel have the ability to come into the game and turn things around.....You yourself know all about the game and how the Aussies have taken a decision not to bother with us outside the world cup, you again pinpoint how the SKY deal has been reduced ...
So on that fair analysis can Hoyle and his cohorts make the Aussies re-start regular test matches with GB?
And again on that fair analysis can Hoyle and his bag carriers step in and get SKY to up the money.
He can't can he?? so he is just being a windbag, looking for a self important jolly in an RL talking shop ............
The last windbag was Eric Perez - how did that messiah go??
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Yes but the vast majority of people in the game have already said what Hoyle has said......It doesn't mean Hoyle and his "independent" panel have the ability to come into the game and turn things around.....You yourself know all about the game and how the Aussies have taken a decision not to bother with us outside the world cup, you again pinpoint how the SKY deal has been reduced ...
So on that fair analysis can Hoyle and his cohorts make the Aussies re-start regular test matches with GB?
And again on that fair analysis can Hoyle and his bag carriers step in and get SKY to up the money.
He can't can he?? so he is just being a windbag, looking for a self important jolly in an RL talking shop ............
The last windbag was Eric Perez - how did that messiah go??'"
Hoyle has stated an independent review would be a good thing.
He has NOT mentioned Aussie Test Matches,nor any broadcast company donating money.
On the subject of windbags.....
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| Quote ="puroresu_boy"The problem is that fan base isn't growing and only getting smaller. The sport can't survive like that. Well it can do but it wouldn't be great at all.'"
This is why warrington went on the social media attack with wolfie and all that crap. We knee that our support base is older and they were trying to target young fans using the avenues that kids like and find cool.
And in typical rl fashion, boring northern old farts started complaining about it.
The rfl should sell t-shirts saying "rugby league:WE DON'T LIKE CHANGE"
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| Quote ="Ornery Optimist"Hoyle has stated an independent review would be a good thing.
He has NOT mentioned Aussie Test Matches,nor any broadcast company donating money.
On the subject of windbags.....'"
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| Some of these Corbynistas on here probably did their maths at the same school as Dianne Abbot spouting the same old boring clap trap. Put your masks on. Wakey and Cas actually own their grounds. They may not be up to much but who misses the Boulevard, Wilderspool, Central Park, Willows etc and would have preferred a 5 million uplift rather than a soulless arena with crap access and egress.
P.s. ignore Wilzay.
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| Quote ="Manuel"Some of these Corbynistas on here probably did their maths at the same school as Dianne Abbot spouting the same old boring clap trap. Put your masks on. Wakey and Cas actually own their grounds. They may not be up to much but who misses the Boulevard, Wilderspool, Central Park, Willows etc and would have preferred a 5 million uplift rather than a soulless arena with crap access and egress.
P.s. ignore Wilzay.'"
I remember having a with a pint in my other hand and still watching the game over the loo wall at Leigh......happier times
I kid you not. I called an estate agent on the way back to the car to enquire as to the asking price of a nearby terraced house and learned that if I'd sold my 2 bed flat in brentford I could have bought the street........joking aside, it's what I used to love about RL......it was a people's game....a locals game. Now, we've tried to follow football down the rabbit hole..,and we've discovered were not as big or important as we thought.
Nothing wrong with the grounds until those in high paid jobs tell us there is
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| Quote ="Manuel" They may not be up to much but who misses the Boulevard, Wilderspool, Central Park, Willows etc and would have preferred a 5 million uplift rather than a soulless arena with crap access and egress. '"
I certainly miss most of the old grounds and the idea of "uplifts" sounds pretty good. Seems to be what Wakefield are doing........
However the old Hull stadiums were an old athletics track, and both were dog racing tracks, awful stadiums....
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