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| Quote ="Wilde 3"I hope 10k extra people come to the KCOM when he plays against Hull just to boo him'"
Not from Perpignan they wont.
On a serious note, this just seems a strange signing.
Although, no doubt, he will be on fraction of his old Union contract, why on earth would you throw decent money at the player.
Surely, there are better and "safer" options out there for the same kind of cash ?
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| Quote ="IR80"Being anti bigotry isn't fashionable.
Dave Woods
It's's fair to say that the whole game is appalled by Catalans' decision to sign Israel Folau but they are legally constrained by what they can do.
Rugby Australia sacked him but had to come to an expensive settlement following a court case.
The Australian National Rugby League declared that he would not be welcome in their game but as they didn't ban him that has left the RFL unable to prevent his registration here.
But it's fair to say he will not be welcome at any domestic Super League grounds.
Wigan's immediate reaction to declare that their home game against Catalans will now be a celebration of the LGBTQ+ community is a reflection of the sentiments of every other Super League club.
It's rare to see such a united front from both the Super League and RFL in their condemnation of this signing.'" \
I'm not especially upset so he/you are not talking for anybody except your own over-inflated ego's.
That would be the same Wigan club that has a renowned homophobe plying for them, I think somebody has made you up, you can't be for real. You mate are a total hypocrite but then that's the true definition of a snowflake or woke or whatever the latest name is for people with a moral superiority complex is.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Not from Perpignan they wont.
On a serious note, this just seems a strange signing.
Although, no doubt, he will be on fraction of his old Union contract, why on earth would you throw decent money at the player.
Surely, there are better and "safer" options out there for the same kind of cash ?'"
I don't think he'll be on right lot because I bet he's desperate for game time.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"\
I'm not especially upset so he/you are not talking for anybody except your own over-inflated ego's.
That would be the same Wigan club that has a renowned homophobe plying for them, I think somebody has made you up, you can't be for real. You mate are a total hypocrite but then that's the true definition of a snowflake or woke or whatever the latest name is for people with a moral superiority complex is.'"
your opinion, which doesn't matter to me.
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| Quote ="Angelus"The difference is the history that LGBT people have had to endure vs "adulterers, liars, atheists". you've never felt unsafe because you lied or got drunk, or felt like you couldn't be out in public drunk.'"
Actually there are still a number of countries where you would not want to be caught drunk. As for adultery...
He won't be able to help himself though and sooner or later he will feel the need to "evangelise".
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"\
I'm not especially upset so he/you are not talking for anybody except your own over-inflated ego's.
That would be the same Wigan club that has a renowned homophobe plying for them, I think somebody has made you up, you can't be for real. You mate are a total hypocrite but then that's the true definition of a snowflake or woke or whatever the latest name is for people with a moral superiority complex is.'"
your opinion, which doesn't matter to me.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"\
I'm not especially upset so he/you are not talking for anybody except your own over-inflated ego's.
That would be the same Wigan club that has a renowned homophobe plying for them, I think somebody has made you up, you can't be for real. You mate are a total hypocrite but then that's the true definition of a snowflake or woke or whatever the latest name is for people with a moral superiority complex is.'"
Pretty much every chairman has said so far that its not something they agree with, so hes right in saying the league dont want him.
Also, you want to watch what you say mate. For one its not true, as theres a difference between a homophobe and homophobic comment.
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| 'I think same sex relationships are wrong' = religious view (although outdated and out of touch)
'Homosexuals should burn in hell, and those dieing in the Australia fires are paying for sins' = hate speech.
Get the difference?
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| Quote ="Seth"'I think same sex relationships are wrong' = religious view (although outdated and out of touch)
'Homosexuals should burn in hell, and those dieing in the Australia fires are paying for sins' = hate speech.
Get the difference?'"
Is that the official legal position (that he has been convicted off) or just a layman's interpretation? Just curious.
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| Quote ="Exiled down south"Is that the official legal position (that he has been convicted off) or just a layman's interpretation? Just curious.'"
He hasn't been convicted as nobody has made a formal complaint, his comments were made in Aus, I am not sure how UK legislation could be applied.
But, wether convicted by a court of law he is guilty in the most important court when it comes to PR, the court of public opinion.
Nobody can deny what he posted, and nobody can defend it as anything other than hate speech.
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| Quote ="Exiled down south"Is that the official legal position (that he has been convicted off) or just a layman's interpretation? Just curious.'"
My own really that makes sense to me. An opinion like folaus really i suppose only im not condemning anyone to hell with mine.
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Quote ="IR80"He hasn't been convicted as nobody has made a formal complaint, his comments were made in Aus, I am not sure how UK legislation could be applied.
But, wether convicted by a court of law he is guilty in the most important court when it comes to PR, the court of public opinion.
Nobody can deny what he posted, and nobody can defend it as anything other than hate speech.'"
Maybe some can defend it https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... rael-folau
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But, wether convicted by a court of law he is guilty in the most important court when it comes to PR, the court of public opinion.
Nobody can deny what he posted, and nobody can defend it as anything other than hate speech.'"
Maybe some can defend it https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/ ... rael-folau
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"For me it is. Even before you get into the mind field of believing in hell, I honestly couldn't care less.
Worth also pointing out that he also said hell awaits drunks, adulterers, liars, atheists and a few others too. Now I'm actually a few of them myself and still I couldn't care less. Doesn't mean I won't be entertained by his rugby talent tho.'"
Drunks, adulterers, liars, atheists all do so as their own choice. It's a more apt comparison to discrimination based on factors nobody chooses, like race and sex/gender. I image we wouldn't be taking the same "be reet" attitude towards him if he'd said all black people are going to hell. I also reckon the same people saying it's a mountain out of a molehill genuinely don't know the damage to LGBT people that normalising this does.
If you label anybody disgusted with homophobia as being a snowflake, showing fake outrage or anything of the like, all you are doing is telling us exactly what kind of person you are.
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they can try, agreed. But Vunipola shares the same bigoted views. It always amazes me that radical Religion seems to be at the heart of most hate, yet it is supposed to be all about love and tolerance. (steps quietly away from getting anywhere near a debate about religion)
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they can try, agreed. But Vunipola shares the same bigoted views. It always amazes me that radical Religion seems to be at the heart of most hate, yet it is supposed to be all about love and tolerance. (steps quietly away from getting anywhere near a debate about religion)
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ACL, hardly an unbiased view from organised bigots.
(can you find anything that isn't from the Grundian)
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ACL, hardly an unbiased view from organised bigots.
(can you find anything that isn't from the Grundian)
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| Quote ="IR80"ACL, hardly an unbiased view from organised bigots.
(can you find anything that isn't from the Grundian)'"
Just dropped you something from the other side of the world so you don't think im a Guardian reader
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| Quote ="IR80"ACL, hardly an unbiased view from organised bigots.
(can you find anything that isn't from the Grundian)'"
Just providing you some balance as you appear to have adopted a position where by you feel you can speak on behalf of everybody.
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| Quote ="Exiled down south"Just dropped you something from the other side of the world so you don't think im a Guardian reader
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lol, then you would have to go on my foes list!
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| There really is something wrong with people who are up in arms about Folau’s signing.
Bird was convicted of smashing a glass in his girlfriends face, Lui beat his wife up, Monaghan performed a sexually explicit act on a dog and the list goes on....yet all were allowed to resurrect their careers over here.
Folau spoke out about what his beliefs are and what his religion states, and it is the crime of the century !
To make matters worse Wigan announce a LGBT day to show they don’t agree with him playing in SL yet they are the biggest foster home for bad boys !
I can’t wait to see Folau tear it up in SL, but I certainly won’t be going to the charade at Wigan !
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| Quote ="IR80"I have asked this question before, how is hitting a woman any worse than hitting a man?, violence is violence.'"
Because of the power dynamics. What would you be more outraged over - me punching Mike Tyson as hard as I can or me punching a newborn baby as hard as I can?
If you can see a difference in that, you can see why all violence is not equivalent - there is a spectrum.
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| Quote ="jammle"There really is something wrong with people who are up in arms about Folau’s signing.
Bird was convicted of smashing a glass in his girlfriends face, Lui beat his wife up, Monaghan performed a sexually explicit act on a dog and the list goes on....yet all were allowed to resurrect their careers over here.
Folau spoke out about what his beliefs are and what his religion states, and it is the crime of the century !
To make matters worse Wigan announce a LGBT day to show they don’t agree with him playing in SL yet they are the biggest foster home for bad boys !
I can’t wait to see Folau tear it up in SL, but I certainly won’t be going to the charade at Wigan !'"
And they were all widely condemned for it.
His religion also states the his elders can stone his son to death if hes rebellious. He can also stone his wife to death if shes not a virgin. and he also shouldnt wear polyester. and he cant work (play rugby) on a saturday.
i look forward to seeing him stick to every single thing his religion states...
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Because of the power dynamics. What would you be more outraged over - me punching Mike Tyson as hard as I can or me punching a newborn baby as hard as I can?
If you can see a difference in that, you can see why all violence is not equivalent - there is a spectrum.'"
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