We’ve won 4 out of 4, what exactly am I sounding worried about? Guess how many points we got for beating Leeds and guess how many you got. Believe it or not you didn’t get any more for totally bullying them. And you’ve just called Saints average then said we look like we’ll finish top of the pile with Warrington. Make your mind up.

Unfair on smith he’s never a 6 and shouldn’t be asked to play there certainly not at this stage of his career. He’s played limited minutes off the bench then is expected to step into 6 when he’s a back row. The coach’s selection is what should be torn a new one.

Correct but I’m not sure that can be an excuse for missing tackles like he did, something he needs to be able to do wherever he plays.

Unfortunately about as good as it get's of late for Wakey fans, but I'll take it.

Any win at Headingley is a moment to savour, but a big win coupled with raining on their parade is an added bonus.

I hope it hasn't put ThePrinter's rehab back too much.

Shame they took the foot of the gas at the back end, still, much later than against London.

Watkins needs time to get himself together.
That injury will have smashed his confidence to bits, he played like he was walking on eggshells the whole game and being up against Tupou magnify's everything.
I'm finding it difficult to be too critical, the guy might have recovered physically but he's still playing injured mentally.
He'll come good eventually.
I thought Cam Smith was ok, but then he didn't have to pull any trees up to look ok.
Dwyer went well and Hurrel showed what he can do.
Leeds looked ok up front in this game, but ok wasn't good enough when nothing is happening anywhere else.

We beat Salford by 22 points and scored 4 more try’s than them. If you didn’t see any major differences between the two teams then you’re severely deluded and incredibly stupid. You get the same amount of points for beating a team by 1 point as you do 40. We were slated for starting the season brilliantly last season and fading away at the end of it. We seem to be going about it the right way this time whilst still winning 4 out of 4 yet we’re average because we didn’t blow a couple of teams away. Yes I do expect them to finish mid-table but how do Leeds look above average when they’ve won 1 out of 5?

You must be worried, camping on a Leeds - Wakefield thread for half the night, just to say how average both sides are.
Totally bullying a side does seem to make securing the points slightly easier and the win tonight was pretty damn comfortable and unlike last week, Trinity were smashing Leeds in their own back yard, not scraping past them at home with dodgy calls aplenty.
Unlike some other sides, Trinity certainty made light work of beating the Rhinos



Some fans of other sides are saying that Trinity played well but, you're too busy choking on your bitter to actually admit that and yes, Saints are my tip for the LLS, but, that doesn't matter a jot when they're not even playing, does it.

By the way, how did you enjoy playing Catalan in the cup semi last season, that was a cracking day out for the neutrals

I said you were good in attack, what do you want me to say you were absolutely incredible and it was some of the best rugby I’ve ever seen? I think I said Wakey were average a maximum of two times, I’m not worried about you at all as we won’t be playing you in the big games. It was Gazwire who started the whole Saints must be average because they only just beat Wakey and nonsense. And securing the points slightly easier doesn’t get you anymore than scraping a win does.

Leeds have a new coach, new players and many returnees from injuries and they'll get better. If your judgement is that Leeds are an average side, baring in mind you were fortunate to beat them in your own stadium- what does that make stains? Or were stains laying off the gas? - though it didn't look like they were laying off the gas!

You see as108, here lies the problem. You've brazenly labelled two sides you've only just beaten as average relative to your beloved stains, and then wonder why you've had your judgment questioned. I'll leave it with you.

On an aside, Wakey looked excellent tonight and will be more than a threat to anyone. Leeds have got some gelling still to do, but give them time-I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see them challenge as time progresses.

It was a master coaching class from Chester. Move the ball wide and early to keep away from the Leeds pack and attack the Leeds right side of Defence. That Leeds defence with Watkins, Smith etc were dreadful.

We were well beat in every aspect last night, we never turned up, looked like we had never played together before, unlike wakefield who looked like everyone new what they were doing and were they needed to be.
Lots of work yo do, think Furner as stuck to pretty much the same lineup for first 5 games, needs to swing the axe now some woeful performances last night and some players given far too many chance over a few seasons.

He’s maturing fast is Chester. A few years ago he would have pin pointed the last 10 minutes as a huge let down but last night he barely mentioned it. I’m sure he will in training but was happy to let the lads enjoy the moment. It’s the hardest trick a coach has to learn, the ability to say nowt.

Tbf on Watkins Tupou did that last week to the Catalan centre and many others in recent seasons. Sure this was special but not unknown.

Why people rave about Hurrell is beyond me when the mini beast is head and shoulders above him.

Exactly, the foe list is a beautiful thing use it!

I thought Hurrell looked like he deserved a reputation tbh, Leeds just weren't able to take advantage of his effort last night.
He was through our line in contact every carry virtually, he's gonna be one of their positives this season.

Few views from a neutral....

1) Wakey are a very good team and a lot of fans on here have been a little bit disingenuous about that. Big, powerful forwards, powerful, fast backs and as much as I hate the scabby little scrote

Brough was very good last night and Tupou is a cracking player. With the size of that pack they shouldn't get bullied down the middle too often. Pretty sure I predicted Wakey top 5 pre-season and I'll stick with that. London was a bit of an aberration but we all have days like that (Salford more than most

).

2) Leeds do have some quality players but I think they'll be up and down this year. Salford blew up against them the other week and I think a few Leeds fans got a bit carried away with where they're at. Mid table for me this year.

3) Can we please start a petition to ban wannabe musicians from all Super League grounds. How Leeds fans cope with that every week, f*ck knows! They're not the only ones of course but if stewards are banning people from bringing bottles of water etc into the ground then they can do us all a favour and confiscate drums and trumpets.

Oh and Wakey's away kit is very nice. Coupled with the home one I reckon they're definitely the smartest outfit this year.

I didn't, he was blowing, he was clumsy, he made errors - he's an OK player but his reputation over here seems to be superstar son no he didn't look anything like his reputation - this may not be his fault as the media have bummed him to daeth but there you go.

As for getting through our line, when exactly, you could say Lyne did the same in fact he did better.

TBF Hurrell did punch a few holes and is a massive handful with ball in hand but he's obviously not fully fit and defensively a bit of a liability. Get him up against a fast centre with decent footwork and he'll struggle. He's fun to watch tho!

By no means is he Mal.Meninga but if he gets up to speed he'll be a welcome addition to SL.

Exactly, the foe list is a beautiful thing use it!

half the reason why its so hard to play at headingley with a hostile crowd and makes poor listening via sky, for the first time I turned the sound nearly off it drove me crazy listening to it so gawd knows anyone with and sense would want to stand near that,
I remember while sky had to make do last season and the band placed them selves below the commentary team and Eddie made the comment for them to move away. it needs addressing seriously.
the one good thing is that in the second half it seemed to go a little quite

He's much like many of the other "big units" that play centre / wing.
Sau at Salford can be a beast and Carney on the wing etc.

If you give them plenty of traffic and turn them round regularly, they lose much of their potency.
Having said that, if the hit a decent ball 15 metres out, they will score all day long.

Leeds pack were well beaten and Watkins had an absolute mare, which Trinity exploited to maximum effect.

A job well done and Headingley does tend to be a tricky place to go and come away with the points.

It's way too early in the season to get carried away, more a case of getting some points on the board.
Leeds have some decent players (including Watkins, who will come good - he's a class player). They look to have bigger issues in their pack and in the halves and although they needed quota spots, why have they allowed Garbutt to go to KR, a poor decision.

Seconded.