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Posts like this always make me laugh.

What do you expect??


NZ and Australia are on a different level to England.

ALL of Durham Giants post's make me laugh.

agreed, good post.

For those who want rid of him, who could we realistically replace him with?

I think it is time to give someone else a crack at the job. He has though overseen one important positive during his time as coach and that is to have the squad/team seem united as one instead of the Leeds/Saints divide we had in 2008 and for quite a while previously of the national side never really gelling together as a unit.

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For the first time in too many years we are competing in the backyard of Oz and NZ. Seems to me that we have a young squad getting better and in general on an upward curve.

Is now the right time to change the coach as we are clearly heading in the right direction?

Exactly, against Australia, we had two crucial chances to win the game, with breaks of 3 against 2, on both occasions the ball carrier didn't pass, If just once the ball had been passed wide the game would've been won! So forget"fingertip-gate" !!

Against the Kiwis, if Ryan Hall doesn't lose his grip, we win, sadly he did, so we lose.

It's been ages since I last felt we were about to win, well ages against Oz', only last year against the Kiwis to be fair, but I'm sure you all know what I mean.

Yeah, let's get rid of the coach.

Then we can start again with another coach who rips up all the plans and structures the players are used to and starts again from scratch.

We don't actually want to get caught up at all, do we?

McNamara's contract won't be renewed surely?
Any one of Wane, Powell or McDermott could do a far better job.
We have a young squad and improving we just need a coach who can take them that step further.
With McNamara out of the way there may be still time for Brough and certainly time for Atkins who will never be selected for England as long as he's the coach.

I understand the point about sticking with as we've competed well with the big 2 the last 2 years and a new coach could be a backward step what with a change of direction if they were to get the new appointment wrong.

But also a new guy could be just what is needed to get past that winning line. Note Leeds in 2003, on the up under Powell but the decision was made to hire Tony Smith and he took the team to the title. Wigan after a few bad years mid 00's, Noble had them moving back to being playoffs contenders and had them close to reaching the GF but the decision was made to employ McGuire and he took them similarly to another level. So there are a couple of examples where hiring a new guy to turn you from 'almosts' into winners does work.

I'd agree with you Printer if the errors that cost us were down to the Coach, but they were simply Player errors, two passes that didn't occur and Ryan Hall dropping the ball, I don't see how a different Coach would alter that.

I fully agree.

You seem to have forgotten the recently minted Englishman Anthony Smith.

Well I have never been a big fan of Macnamara, but apart from a couple of player choices, which people don't agree with, what has he done wrong. This is the most competitive we've been in a long, long time and we need to let him carry on with the good work that he's obviously done. As others have said, he didn't make wrong choices on the field or drop the ball so lets give him the credit that he's due.

McNamara would have coached us through the series unbeaten, save for Bernard Sutton. The performance against NZ was a well-coached one: patient, structured with a few worked moves that were successful.

Anyone suggesting Shaun Wane as the next boss can't have seen Warriors Down Under. Unless that was a spoof? "Anthony Minichiello. He's left-handed. Watch him carrying the ball in his left hand. SBW. He loses the ball in contact. Let's try and make him lose the ball in contact."

We expect better trolling. Yours is on 8 year old level

Agree, I haven't seen England play that competitive in ages, they just seem to lack that bit extra that would allow them to close out the game which is frustrating. I don't think we were ever beating Australia due to the ref gate scandal, but it seems we bottled it against NZ and bombed way too many chances.

We were a coat of paint away from beating NZ. That's not a lame duck NZ coached by Gary Kemble either.

Against Australia we were close than we've been in years.

The team is playing better rugby and is miles ahead of where we were back in 2008. The players play as a team and not a set of individuals as has been the case in the past. In this tournament we've played without our best hooker and back row and with two halfbacks who are fairly average.

I'd give McNamara the chance versus NZ in 2015. If we lose that series then maybe it's time for a change then.

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This is the best I've seen an England/GB team perform since I started watching RL 20 years ago, I'd stick with him. I certainly don't see the benefits of Wane (go out and knock them out), Powell (failure in the big games last year) or McDermott (very average in regular season games).

I think it's time for Steve McNamara to be removed from his post. He as done a good job, but it's time for someone else to take England to the next level, which I am confident will happen with the correct coach in charge.

I haven't read all the arguments there are too many for me to be bothered. But here's my opinion.

I think Nickykiss said england are like Wigan under Noble and I completely agree. I also have to say I wanted Noble to be given another year at Wigan as we kept getting so close. I was wrong, Lenagan was right to go and find a man who could take us the next step.
What people who are arguing Mcnamara should stay need to decide is do they think he is good enough to take us that extra step over the line?

I don't, I think he's done a good job turning our fortunes around and putting good things in place (as Nobby did at Wigan), but a new man is needed to give us whatever we're lacking.

I think Wane is the right man but understand why some don't think so. Put it this way Wane learnt from his mistakes, we lost 2 semi finals in 2012 and in 2013 won the double, because Wane adapted himself and the team.

I know Wigan won nothing this year but I think that's more to do with Ben Flower than Wane.