8 - Graham
9 - Roby
10 - Carvell
11 - Ellis
12 - Heighinton
13 - Westwood

Not bad.

Don't flatter yourself!

I do agree on your 11 12 and 13 though.

8. Carvell
9. Roby
10. Graham (c)
11. Ellis
12. Wilkin
13. Westwood

Then I'd go with Lynch, Heighington, LMS and Sinfield possibly on bench

LMS! How have I forgotten him when I've been thinking about the potential England squad? Give that man a cap!!

Big blow. He has been class this season. I don't like the look of Westwood at 13 because he can't link in the line and organise like Lockers does.

If that's what you're looking for then Westerman might be worth a shout. He does need to stop trying to do it all himself though, I've noticed this season if we're up against it he almost tries too hard and has blown a few chances because of it. Something we can't afford to do.

I don't see O'Loughlin every week but he has never impressed me as anything more than a solid worker. He can be forgiven for that but when you throw in the fact that he has to be one of the most blatant and consistent nigglers in the game I've always been puzzled as to his seemingly automatic international selection. Kevin Sinfield is an infinitely more talented loose forward, even before we discuss some of the younger options raised by others.

Louis Anderson

I assume this is a joke post?

Concerning that this appear to be a club v country issue. As I understand it, SOL has needed this surgery for a while. So it can wait for the end of Wigan's campaign but not for England? A slippery slope....

That's Wigan for you. But Saints told Josh Perry to get his op done straight away so he'd be ready for McBanaman's call.

Westerman is not good enough, simple as that. I would rather play Burgess or Westwood there than Westerman. My next choice would be Sinfield to organise and do a stint at 9 to help Roby out and also give us his kicking game.


Lets just leave it there then.

Burgess is out, I believe. Unless you're being hypothetical then ignore me...

Big loss for England. As good and as important Sinfield is for Leeds, he just doesn't have the physical presence at International level. Would like to see Westerman given a go to realise his potential as a 13 but options are limited in this position. Danny Tickle as a wildcard?

Agree with the point about Sinfield, he has struggled physically in the past in international games – particularly in defence

If we have two good halves and Tomkins and Roby, I think we have enough attacking talent to forsake a creative loose forward and go with a full running pack with Westwood or Heighington at 13

You really are an odd fellow with an unhealthy obsession with anything anti-wigan.

Anyway. Club before Country = Family before County? Who pays the wages week by week? I agree that playing for your country is an huge honor, but if you are injured and have soldiered on for the good of your club then what's the problem with getting treatment v's playing injured for your country and most probably letting them down.

Or

All players should save themselves for internationals at the expense of the club game?

And.... Josh Perry, op sorted so he can be ready for the call? Really? Born in Aus, 10 years NRL and is now OK for England?

Chris Heighington will be 13.

I think it is looking more like this. Would make our pack a bit lightweight to have Sinfield at 13. Sinfield should be considered as a stand off now i think. It would be a lot to ask him to do 30+ tackles, organise and possibly kick goals.

Heighington plays loose forward for Wests. I hope we don't put Sinfield at 13 - GB/England have tried 'ball handling' loose forwards for years and it simply doesn't work. we have halfbacks and the hooker to set up the plays. Funnily enough NZ and Australia don't need an extra playmaker, and instead prefer somebody who can provide a link if required, but also graft.

Sinfield has played to help out our poor halfs, hopefully with Brough, Widdop, Chase, Maguire, Myler and Sinfield to chose from we won't need a ball handling 13.

The modern 13 plays much more like a 3rd 2nd row these days, that is what we need.

I agree with you. Overrated. No great loss. Jeremy Smith would have shown him up. It might even be a good thing. I'm still not convinced by Widdops kicking game and if crapbanana picks Lomax and he chokes we will need Sinfields kicking or we will get hammered.