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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Ok so he came with a big fanfare , but what has he brought to our great game so far ?'"
More than others did.
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| over paid spokesperson....brought nothing to the game in value
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| Quote ="atomic"More than others did.'"
Oh good , can you name something ?
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| Quote ="atomic"More than others did.'"
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| Enhanced Sky TV deal on the first offer, now reputedly £30m year.
£750k bill for a failed venture capital tender.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Really?'"
Not "really" at all Mr. Willzay if you note his move to check out outsideventure capital investors that cost, was it £750,000? Add his own Salary and there has been an enormous loss of money for nothing. There may be an argument we had to get someone in to see if they could find the game new investors and riches.
So that may be fair enough, at least we tried.
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Not "really" at all Mr. Willzay if you note his move to check out outsideventure capital investors that cost, was it £750,000? Add his own Salary and there has been an enormous loss of money for nothing. There may be an argument we had to get someone in to see if they could find the game new investors and riches.
So that may be fair enough, at least we tried.'"
It's not for nothing, he was clearly instructed to 'look' for capital investment which doesn't come free.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"It's not for nothing, he was clearly instructed to 'look' for capital investment which doesn't come free.'"
Should of just put him on commision only then
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| If he was any good he would still be working in football on 3 or 4 times the dough
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| Quote ="wire-quin"It's not for nothing, he was clearly instructed to 'look' for capital investment which doesn't come free.'"
He was. But when all the clubs at the bottom of the league voted against it, hardly his fault
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"He was. But when all the clubs at the bottom of the league voted against it, hardly his fault'"
voted against what ?
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| Just out of interest is it the same set up in football? that is, in the permier league for example, do the clubs all vote on major changes in the same way as RL does or do the leaders have the clout to force things through, and its then on their heads if it fails.
in fact are all sports leagues run along the same admin lines as RL of is it perhaps a bit outdated?
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| Quote ="the artist"Just out of interest is it the same set up in football? that is, in the permier league for example, do the clubs all vote on major changes in the same way as RL does or do the leaders have the clout to force things through, and its then on their heads if it fails.
in fact are all sports leagues run along the same admin lines as RL of is it perhaps a bit outdated?'"
Football runs the same way with the member clubs voting
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| Quote ="wire-quin"It's not for nothing, he was clearly instructed to 'look' for capital investment which doesn't come free.'"
Well thanks for the reply, I get the venture capital thing if these people are adept at putting £Millions into a straight forward business that provides goods or services and reaping £Millions more as a result when sales rise thanks to that money being "invested".
But I can't think for the life of me what Superleague could have done with a capital investment. Superleague isn't a real business.
Those who own the clubs chuck Millions away because they can and because it's fun, and often because it's a release from proper business??
Doesn't Mr. Moran sink £Millions into Wire because it's a great hobby and something to enjoy outside proper business??
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Well thanks for the reply, I get the venture capital thing if these people are adept at putting £Millions into a straight forward business that provides goods or services and reaping £Millions more as a result when sales rise thanks to that money being "invested".
But I can't think for the life of me what Superleague could have done with a capital investment. Superleague isn't a real business.
Those who own the clubs chuck Millions away because they can and because it's fun, and often because it's a release from proper business??
Doesn't Mr. Moran sink £Millions into Wire because it's a great hobby and something to enjoy outside proper business??'"
Something for him to enjoy ? It is Warrington
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"He was. But when all the clubs at the bottom of the league voted against it, hardly his fault'"
I mean you're usually wrong on everything, but not by this much.
The clubs which voted against were led by Leeds and St Helens who have about as much interest in surrendering control of their future income streams for a paltry amount of money up front as they have in having a second, smaller, team from Wigan in the league .
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"I mean you're usually wrong on everything, but not by this much.
The clubs which voted against were led by Leeds and St Helens who have about as much interest in surrendering control of their future income streams for a paltry amount of money up front as they have in having a second, smaller, team from Wigan in the league .'"
Is this you Stephanie in yet another of your pathetic guises.You`re a bit of a tool aren`t you.
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| Quote ="Bartholemew Smythe"Is this you Stephanie in yet another of your pathetic guises.You`re a bit of a tool aren`t you.'"
Sorry if facts hurt.
Leeds and Saints voted against Toronto being excluded and voted against the PI rubbish.
Leigh are tangential but it's pretty clear the two most successful clubs in the league weren't seeking for them to be included.
On topic, Hetherington and McManus have their sights set on Elstone next - he'd better start delivering or he might find himself in trouble.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Sorry if facts hurt.
Leeds and Saints voted against Toronto being excluded and voted against the PI rubbish.
Leigh are tangential but it's pretty clear the two most successful clubs in the league weren't seeking for them to be included.
On topic, Hetherington and McManus have their sights set on Elstone next - he'd better start delivering or he might find himself in trouble.'"
I`ll stick to my original thought on you,not worthy of comment,now back under your bridge. I wonder what username you use on TRL?
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| Quote ="Bartholemew Smythe"I`ll stick to my original thought on you,not worthy of comment,now back under your bridge. I wonder what username you use on TRL?'"
Bart, he hates Leigh with a passion. IF, and i do say IF Leigh do well in SL, I will be on the warpath to all those who have got Leigh nailed on for relegation.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Bart, he hates Leigh with a passion. IF, and i do say IF Leigh do well in SL, I will be on the warpath to all those who have got Leigh nailed on for relegation.
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What is it Leeds fans or their hidden personna`s,can you not get over 1971.
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"voted against what ?'"
The private equity investment. All the chairmen at the botttom of the league that have no money voted against it whilst The ones who do like McManus, Moran and Hetherington voted for it
Another reason why the skid rows of SL have too much sway and why our game is an embarrassment
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"The private equity investment. All the chairmen at the botttom of the league that have no money voted against it whilst The ones who do like McManus, Moran and Hetherington voted for it
Another reason why the skid rows of SL have too much sway and why our game is an embarrassment'"
So you're saying the ones with no money voted against a cash injection.
And the ones with loads of money voted for it despite its very aggressive terms and conditions?
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"So you're saying the ones with no money voted against a cash injection.
And the ones with loads of money voted for it despite its very aggressive terms and conditions?'"
It's just whoever it is goading as usual, dunno why you feed it?
The issue was that several SL clubs were heading for or maybe were or still are near collapse financially.
The money would have been for survival in the short term, venture capital isn't for that, it's for restructures that attract more money thus justifying the high fee charged to look into the possibilities.
Mr. Sadler spotted that one easily enough and suggested clubs continued to rattle the begging bowl at the Government....
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"So you're saying the ones with no money voted against a cash injection.
And the ones with loads of money voted for it despite its very aggressive terms and conditions?'"
Ignore it.....
Soccer's attempt at this would have seen a re-structure that would have given the top clubs (like Liverpool and Man Utd) more power so that could have been in the mix as far as Superleague go. Do the richest SL owners like the situation that skint SL club owners who just survive have an equal say in Superleague?
Now as they struggle to survive may have been be the time for the top SL clubs to try to take more power.........
They'd certainly give £750K for that......
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