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| Quote ="ParanoidAndroid"Pretty much typical of RL supporters, for every silver lining, there must be a cloud
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Of course thats true! However anyone with any business experience can smell a rat here (and I by the way am a Chartered Accountant and wouldn't touch that firm with a barge-pole). He is playing a good game right now and lots of impressive statements and self promotion, and getting clubs like Fax and Cas to make equally gushing statements although they don't really know him from Adam!
When you look at his website, its just one big sales pitch. Its an organization which has no substance. Its classic - split up the company into different arms to make yourself look bigger and sound impressive, hire a few "big names" to give you some credibility, sell franchises and laugh all the way to the bank.
Probiz have also linked up with West Bromwich Albion, and I think it was Fax who spoke of the massive investment they have made in football. Except I can't see to see any proof of them actually spending so much of a pound there - they have simply become advisers of the players/club and wealth creation advice (but haven't the players created enough wealth already?!) |
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Meh, I'm just taking it at face value at the moment, trying to accentuate the positive rather than the negative whereas others have the company hung, drawn and quartered before they even start.
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| Quote ="ParanoidAndroid"Meh, I'm just taking it at face value at the moment, trying to accentuate the positive rather than the negative whereas others have the company hung, drawn and quartered before they even start.'"
With some on here its clear its more of a case they hope that something does go wrong, than they actually think it, i'm quite happy to see how this develops and am satisfied with the fact that we have gone from no ground sponsorship to a big wedge of it. |
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can't believe the negativity on this forum - the fans have a right to be sceptical but FFS,give the club a chance before putting the boot in !
Good luck Cas and anyone else lucky enough to find sponsorship nowadays
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| Quote ="mapleyther"Quote ="ParanoidAndroid"Pretty much typical of RL supporters, for every silver lining, there must be a cloud
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Of course thats true! However anyone with any business experience can smell a rat here (and I by the way am a Chartered Accountant and wouldn't touch that firm with a barge-pole). He is playing a good game right now and lots of impressive statements and self promotion, and getting clubs like Fax and Cas to make equally gushing statements although they don't really know him from Adam!
When you look at his website, its just one big sales pitch. Its an organization which has no substance. Its classic - split up the company into different arms to make yourself look bigger and sound impressive, hire a few "big names" to give you some credibility, sell franchises and laugh all the way to the bank.
Probiz have also linked up with West Bromwich Albion, and I think it was Fax who spoke of the massive investment they have made in football. Except I can't see to see any proof of them actually spending so much of a pound there - they have simply become advisers of the players/club and wealth creation advice (but haven't the players created enough wealth already?!)'"
Yeah your right, maybe Fax and Cas should look for a local taxi firm or scaffolding firm to sponsor them as their money will be different to the money PROBIZ will be paying? |
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Quote ="mapleyther"Quote ="ParanoidAndroid"Pretty much typical of RL supporters, for every silver lining, there must be a cloud
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Of course thats true! However anyone with any business experience can smell a rat here (and I by the way am a Chartered Accountant and wouldn't touch that firm with a barge-pole). He is playing a good game right now and lots of impressive statements and self promotion, and getting clubs like Fax and Cas to make equally gushing statements although they don't really know him from Adam!
When you look at his website, its just one big sales pitch. Its an organization which has no substance. Its classic - split up the company into different arms to make yourself look bigger and sound impressive, hire a few "big names" to give you some credibility, sell franchises and laugh all the way to the bank.
Probiz have also linked up with West Bromwich Albion, and I think it was Fax who spoke of the massive investment they have made in football. Except I can't see to see any proof of them actually spending so much of a pound there - they have simply become advisers of the players/club and wealth creation advice (but haven't the players created enough wealth already?!)'"
Yeah your right, maybe Fax and Cas should look for a local taxi firm or scaffolding firm to sponsor them as their money will be different to the money PROBIZ will be paying?'"
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| Quote Yeah your right, maybe Fax and Cas should look for a local taxi firm or scaffolding firm to sponsor them as their money will be different to the money PROBIZ will be paying?'"
Au contraire, Castleford (and Halifax) should take the money whilst they can. What I am disputing is whether the Probiz grandiose plans for marketing the club UK wide and overseas has any credibility whatsoever.
As long as Probiz have no stake in the club or are propping up the club with a loan, it should be no concern of Cas as to what Probiz actually do.
As for hoping things go wrong before they start - hope has nothing to do with it. As many will know I am a flatcapper so nothing would give more pleasure than to see a flat-cap club like Cas succeed.
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| Quote ="mapleyther"Quote Yeah your right, maybe Fax and Cas should look for a local taxi firm or scaffolding firm to sponsor them as their money will be different to the money PROBIZ will be paying?'"
Au contraire, Castleford (and Halifax) should take the money whilst they can. What I am disputing is whether the Probiz grandiose plans for marketing the club UK wide and overseas has any credibility whatsoever.
As long as Probiz have no stake in the club or are propping up the club with a loan, it should be no concern of Cas as to what Probiz actually do.
As for hoping things go wrong before they start - hope has nothing to do with it. As many will know I am a flatcapper so nothing would give more pleasure than to see a flat-cap club like Cas succeed.
Anyway, lets just see how it all turns out eh?'"
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| Quote ="pyeman"Quote ="mapleyther"Quote Yeah your right, maybe Fax and Cas should look for a local taxi firm or scaffolding firm to sponsor them as their money will be different to the money PROBIZ will be paying?'"
Au contraire, Castleford (and Halifax) should take the money whilst they can. What I am disputing is whether the Probiz grandiose plans for marketing the club UK wide and overseas has any credibility whatsoever.
As long as Probiz have no stake in the club or are propping up the club with a loan, it should be no concern of Cas as to what Probiz actually do.
As for hoping things go wrong before they start - hope has nothing to do with it. As many will know I am a flatcapper so nothing would give more pleasure than to see a flat-cap club like Cas succeed.
Anyway, lets just see how it all turns out eh?'"
Actually cas are an expansion club, formed 31 years after the formation of the northern union (and the most succesful expansion club i might add).'"
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I'm willing to bet that the Probiz Network 1) make loads of promises to Cas and Halifax; 2) get great publicity; then 3) become in dispute with the clubs and pay very little money.
It's a shill firm using the clubs to gain legitimacy.
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Yep all part of being in the so called rugby league family.'"
no such thing mate,and there hasn't been for years.
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It's a shill firm using the clubs to gain legitimacy.'"
 don't burst the bubble of the many on here (the type that think they have really won big in the latest Readers Digest draw!) |
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| Quote ="mapleyther"Quote ="Shmoo"I'm willing to bet that the Probiz Network 1) make loads of promises to Cas and Halifax; 2) get great publicity; then 3) become in dispute with the clubs and pay very little money.
It's a shill firm using the clubs to gain legitimacy.'"
don't burst the bubble of the many on here (the type that think they have really won big in the latest Readers Digest draw!)'"
can't believe even the most loyal Cas fan is that naiive... |
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Just souths trying to make room for a new sponsor who'll pay GI his wage 
Couple of points Re Mr Feisal Nahaboo.
His Biog on the site says he's a pretty cool dude and mentions 3 large companies that have:
"All have given glowing endorsements for the results he creates and the integrity he breathes."
Fair dues to the guy..he's got nutz that's for sure but what worries me is that there is no real Biog in his Biog...it just says he's a cool dude...and Nat west RBS and AWD Chase De Vere have aligned themselves with him. Nowhere else is there anything on what he has done in the past, what qualifications he has or anything....not much of a biog if you ask me...more of a "trumpet blowing excercise".
If I had those firms 'ALIGN" themselves with me I'd have more logos on my jacket that Jenson Button 
Next up....Michael Gerber and Peter Thomson...both apparently Gurus and Partners. This is another area for concern as these guys are essentially "presenters".....if they were any good at making money, why the hell would they be traipsing around the country dressed like used car salesmen ( [url=http://www.fngonline.com/entrepreneurs/see here[/url ) and presenting in hotels to schmucks?
Still.....the guy does seem to make a few quid...maybe he should use some of it to pay his bills [urlhttp://www.accountancyage.com/aa/news/1748040/probiz-hit-writ-cheque[/url...but I am being unfair.....that was over 2 years ago.
Seriously..well done Castleford, Halifax, west Brom and the tennis and cricket organisations this guy has publicly gone on record (23 pages on google) to support......and so long as you're getting cold hard cash (not cheques..see above) you carry on.
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Couple of points Re Mr Feisal Nahaboo.
His Biog on the site says he's a pretty cool dude and mentions 3 large companies that have:
"All have given glowing endorsements for the results he creates and the integrity he breathes."
Fair dues to the guy..he's got nutz that's for sure but what worries me is that there is no real Biog in his Biog...it just says he's a cool dude...and Nat west RBS and AWD Chase De Vere have aligned themselves with him. Nowhere else is there anything on what he has done in the past, what qualifications he has or anything....not much of a biog if you ask me...more of a "trumpet blowing excercise".
If I had those firms 'ALIGN" themselves with me I'd have more logos on my jacket that Jenson Button
Next up....Michael Gerber and Peter Thomson...both apparently Gurus and Partners. This is another area for concern as these guys are essentially "presenters".....if they were any good at making money, why the hell would they be traipsing around the country dressed like used car salesmen ( [url=http://www.fngonline.com/entrepreneurs/see here[/url ) and presenting in hotels to schmucks?
Still.....the guy does seem to make a few quid...maybe he should use some of it to pay his bills [urlhttp://www.accountancyage.com/aa/news/1748040/probiz-hit-writ-cheque[/url...but I am being unfair.....that was over 2 years ago.
Seriously..well done Castleford, Halifax, west Brom and the tennis and cricket organisations this guy has publicly gone on record (23 pages on google) to support......and so long as you're getting cold hard cash (not cheques..see above) you carry on.
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Still.....the guy does seem to make a few quid...maybe he should use some of it to pay his bills [urlhttp://www.accountancyage.com/aa/news/1748040/probiz-hit-writ-cheque[/url...but I am being unfair.....that was over 2 years ago.
Seriously..well done Castleford, Halifax, west Brom and the tennis and cricket organisations this guy has publicly gone on record (23 pages on google) to support......and so long as you're getting cold hard cash (not cheques..see above) you carry on.
What was it the Egyptians Built?
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anyone who has Spurs legend Steve Perryman in tow is ok with me ! Come on you SPURS !
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| Quote ="j.c"Quote ="pyeman"Quote ="mapleyther"Quote Yeah your right, maybe Fax and Cas should look for a local taxi firm or scaffolding firm to sponsor them as their money will be different to the money PROBIZ will be paying?'"
Au contraire, Castleford (and Halifax) should take the money whilst they can. What I am disputing is whether the Probiz grandiose plans for marketing the club UK wide and overseas has any credibility whatsoever.
As long as Probiz have no stake in the club or are propping up the club with a loan, it should be no concern of Cas as to what Probiz actually do.
As for hoping things go wrong before they start - hope has nothing to do with it. As many will know I am a flatcapper so nothing would give more pleasure than to see a flat-cap club like Cas succeed.
Anyway, lets just see how it all turns out eh?'"
Actually cas are an expansion club, formed 31 years after the formation of the northern union (and the most succesful expansion club i might add).'"
you'll be calling us all knuckle dragging northerners next
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Thats PROBIZ......all caps!
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Haven't heard of any problems with their sponsorship of West Brom....have you?'"
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It's a shill firm using the clubs to gain legitimacy.'"
Haven't heard of any problems with their sponsorship of West Brom....have you?'"
so how much cold hard cash have they given WBA then? As far as I understand it they are merely partners giving advice.'"
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Excellent news for Castleford, always enjoyed going there, one of the best atmospheres in RL. It look like their pp is going in tomorrow as well. Good luck with that.
Done a bit of background research, Cas have done brilliantly to get these on board. Good for the Tigers, good for RL.
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| Quote ="saintkevin"Excellent news for Castleford, always enjoyed going there, one of the best atmospheres in RL. It look like their pp is going in tomorrow as well. Good luck with that.
Done a bit of background research, Cas have done brilliantly to get these on board. Good for the Tigers, good for RL.'"
So what research have you done - do tell.
As far as evidence for amounts of sponsorship by Probiz for WBA - none, at least none I can find on the internet anyway. But never mind the actual amount, there is no evidence that any cash is involved whatsoever..hardly sponsorship then is it...might be a partnership at best... |
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