England vs Scotland should be played at the Hampden Stadium in Glasgow.. They could promote it by playing the Paul McCartney and Wings song video Mull of Kintyre as advertising material in a 30 second ad. They would fill the stadium.

Please not Elland road.

Anywhere but Elland Road.

Believe me, being a fat knacker who struggles to squeeze my vast bulk into the seats at ER, I totally agree. It's just about the right size though, and in RL territority.
If we could guarantee England being in the final then I'd go bigger. But if we're not then the crowd could be relatively low.

I'm sort of tempted to go down the Union route and not have a final. Just go on the league leader. Maybe play each other twice instead?
Only a thought.

A Six Nations-style mini-league would make more sense, if, as suggested on here, there were two 'minnow' sides, who would have the interest of battling it out to avoid the wooden spoon.

I'd be happy with that. I think the 4 Nations needs expanding to at least 5. Does anyone involved with the Scotland camp, even in their wildest dreams, think they'll win a game in the series?
They have very little to play for.
Give them a game against France or Wales and suddenly there's an achievable goal for them.

Well we have dates and tickets on sale for the WCC and associated NRL friendlies, magic weekend and the challenge cup and grand finals. Next job RFL is to get these international venues and tickets on sale. Now please.

I think Scotland qualifying pushes us towards double header territory. Any game in Scotland would be very optimistic. So four rounds, four stadiums. I'd go for Leeds, Manchester, London and Newcastle. I'd tie extra marketing for each international in with the other events we have. WCC associated push for international games at Elland Road, Magic associated push for internationals at St James Park etc We are coming back on... with another chance to see the best in the world.

Id put England v Aus up first in London, Olympic or Wembley are both fine. Both got history as a national stadium too.

Eng v Sco at Elland Road, probably the smallest crowd expected so need to go core audience and NZ v Aus should also draw that. Historically been an international venue but as we don't have much success there is might be time for a change in final venue. It's also where I think Leeds should play NQC.

Eng v NZ at St James park, hopefully a good area for growth, sport mad and a place where being a "northern
game" is actually a good thing

play the decider there and show a growth area that we think they deserve more big games after how well magic has gone.

Final at Old Trafford or COM stadium. History at Old Trafford or great chance to build on Magic weekends at COM.

I don't think we can risk using Man City's ground for the final. If England aren't in the final it could be less than half full. The last time we got 26k for Australia v NZ in the final.
In Man City's ground that'd look bad, at Old Trafford itd look appalling.

I think the world cup sold out old Trafford and no one knew who would be in the final and it was Australia new Zealand.

Why would those people not go back for a 4 nations final?

Indeed
But those tickets went on sale before Christmas the year before...

Yep. And the whole event had more marketing available to it than the 4 Nations will. Plus a World Cup is a much bigger deal than the 4 Nations. Especially as we hadn't seen one for 13 years. We last had a 4 Nations here 5 years ago.

Ok we may not sell out old trafford, but we should be looking to sell a final to a large crowd.

Man City could put on a good show.

Leeds, Manchester, London and one other city (Hull, Newcastle or Birmingham for geographical spread's sake) would work a treat I think. Something tells me that as soon as the rest of the country see we are staging Test matches in small towns they switch off.

I actually thought I'd read something about RL being interested in Villa Park after the success of the RWC fixtures there. Its a good-quality ground, a good ambitious size and a new catchment area while being reachable down the M6 and M1 for most core supporters. I wonder if they'll take the plunge and take our game to Birmingham.

I hope we don't use Villa Park.
We have to use London to build up our profile.
The other games should either be in the heartlands to guarantee decent crowds or go to areas where we're trying to develop the game. So really either Manchester or Newcastle or heartlands.

Birmingham is a good shout; could hardly be more central, could it?

What about the Ricoh Arena in Coventry? It's in an RL development area, and has a decent capacity of 32k.

Whose turn is it to own the Ricoh this week?

It's got to be London or the heartlands. Talk of Birmingham, Coventry or Newcastle is madness.

If a RL World Cup is not to be held very two years, I'd go for a 4 Nations tournament every year except when it's a World Cup year.

Alternate the 4 Nations between the Northern and Southern Hemisphere.

GREAT BRITAIN** to compete in the 4 Nations every time. When in Northern Hemisphere ALWAYS GB, FRANCE, NZ, Aus. When in Southern Hemisphere GB, Aus, NZ & winner of earlier South Sea Islands tournament. Play as England only in the World Cup.

Then every year of a 4 Nations there should be a European Championship in advance with England Under 21s representing England.

** Incentive for say top Welsh RU players to come to Super League.

Surely a 4N every year (unless there is a World Cup) although providing a decent contest, actually diminishes the value of the World Cup ?
Also, if we revert to GB, this will stifle the development of the other hoe nations, which is just madness.
We need to do everything possible to improve their status.

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No, no, no to a return to G Britain. I support Australia, unless they're playing against Wales. Do me a favour, chuck Wales, Scotland and N Ireland out of the "United" K. It's about emotion. That's why I can relate so well to Origin, and wish more NSW players felt like me, the fact is J Thurston grew up wanting to play for QLD not Aus. I be it was the same for Cronk, Smith and Slater too.

There's very little chance of G North or Scott Williams coming over to RL, even if you went to G Britain.

That'll be the holding company of Wasps RU who've made a successful go of their move to the Midlands, and diversity of their stadium asset, including a recent announcement about hosting a Rhianna concert there next year.

Even if he did, I don't think George North would be anything more than 'average Superleague level', at best. He gets talked up a hell of a lot by RU pundits and commentators, but I've never seen him do anything that amazing.

Blake Solly hinting that England are going to play a four nations game in London. Seen as just had new Zealand down there I am gonna guess at England v Australia at Olympic? www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/35244939

Blake Solly hinting that England are going to play a four nations game in London. Seen as just had new Zealand down there I am gonna guess at England v Australia at Olympic? www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/35244939