Sigh.... £85 a ticket to sit in a seat with a poor view with an annoying prick sat behind me and watch England throw it away again and again and again.

Wane has to go, if he can't get his best performance in the final game he isn't the right coach for an international side, Samoa got better as the tournament went on, as England did in the last 2 tournaments, and he has to be accountable. All the weaknesses in the team were apparent before today, and yet they were not addressed, he decided his squad and then his best team before the tournament, and they played no matter what their weaknesses, and they were exploited today. We are carrying too many players, and those that have failed before, failed again.

Less disappointed than the last 2 tournaments as I never thought we had a real chance, but after the ticket sales didn't come through we desperately needed the TV viewers to see England in the final and see them give it a good go. We need England to be good enough to make the big teams have to come over here and play the ashes, the four nations, or whatever the big tournaments will be year in and year out, because the international game is the product we can sell, and it can inspire people into the game.

The domestic game is on the slide, the clubs are fighting to cut each other out of increasingly small returns, and the quality and number of players keeps going down, our best development route seems to be NRL exports and expats coming back and improving the gaps in our squad. Winning a world cup won't solve the problems, but its harder to solve them when we fail so spectacularly.

I was at the Australia v New Zealand game last night and it was a lot higher level than that today….think the final has already been played…

We will never win a World Cup until the full English squad are all playing for NRL teams. As has been said Aus v NZ should have been kept apart for the final. I expect Aus to win by 18-20 points in the final. They are a different level for the full 80 minutes.

I've really enjoyed the World Cup and International games are the only way to grow the sport. If feasible I think it would be good to have another tournament every 2 years after the World Cup with the WC quarter finalists forming a comp of 2 groups of 4 with top 2 going to SF and then final. Same comp for bottom 8 teams in WC. Both finals played in double-header. Imagine 2 groups - group 1 Aus, Tonga, Samoa, Lebanon group 2 NZ, Eng, Fiji, PNG. Some mouth watering clashes there.

I would take this england team over Bennett and his total borefest England side any day of the week.

Bennett was doing his best to turn fans away. No excitement at all.

By the next WC we'll probably be able to find 12 sides that play at a professional level.
I'd say we have about 8 now, with 4 more that are improving.

I'd be happy to see us go back to a 12 team main draw and a 12 team emerging nations draw, to give teams like Serbia, USA, Canada, Malta, Soloman Islands etc a chance to play.

The next world cup is only 3 years away and we will probably need around 10 new players of international standard, the likes Burgess, Hill, Cooper, Whitehead, McLLorum. Makinson, Watkins, Tomkins, Walmsley and Percival will probably be all internationally retired. I also think Wane won't go around again knowing some of his decisions didn't work for him.

England's performance didn't match their previous matches, possibly a mental thing with them beating Samoa so convincingly in their first match plus of course but errors at vital times. Dom Young's defence was found wanting in particular.

The biggest positive for me was that we managed to get 41k for a semi final in London, and the amount of new fans that were there. People that say have it in the north...England games in the core areas this tournament have had 21k, 23k and 18k. Need to ensure going forward we always have at least 1 England international a year in London.

There was 28k at Elland Road on a Friday night and it would have been predominantly northerners at the game….if it’d been a Saturday game you could’ve added at least another 5k to that figure in my opinion.

Gutted for the Team,lost to a better team on the day.
Stupid to blame Wane as he didnt drop the ball or give a interception try.
We need stability not get shut soon as we lose.
Every game England won someone has stated Wane should have picked this player over that player now we have lost some say Wane should have picked this player over that player,nothing changes always someone knows better than the coach.

Backwards step in my opinion, keep it at 16 and keep planting them small accorns. Competitiveness will eventually come.

Samoa were a side that would usually get beaten by tier 1 teams prior to this world cup...tamalolos defection to Tonga was a huge movement for making international RL more competitive

I personally don’t agree with some on here slating Young’s defence. Anyone who has played the game in the back line knows that if there’s a 3 on 2 and your centre jams in, you follow suit. Watching it back. Watkins goes with Young about two steps behind. That indicates Watkins hasn’t let Young know that he’s jamming. Watkins missed the one on one for Lafai’s try, dropped the ball when over the line for a certain try, jammed in, missed the tackle, switched off and jogged for the Ligi Sao try. Insaod before the tournament playing players out of position would be the undoing of England. This was just one instant.

I’m not saying Young wasn’t at fault at all. He dropped a sitter which led to a try.

Radley intercept was a shocker. Could see it coming a mile off especially when Crichton put himself in the line.

Tomkins at fullback was a bad call. Always passed to the winger, never linked out the back very well. Kicking game was good until the semi in which he became remarkable average. But to be fair his positioning was good for receiving kicks.

Williams, Whitehead, Farnworth and Burgess were all class yesterday. Neither of them 3 deserved to lose. Especially Whitehead.

We go again in 3 years!

Should have a permanent 6 nations every year for me:

Australia
NZ
England
Tonga
Samoa
PNG/Fiji/France/Wales/Cook Islands etc to play for the 6th spot.

Could have maybe done with one Semi on Sat and one today, but then it cuts down recovery time for the final. I thought Elland Road and the Emirates were good choices of venue.

Emirates was a great stadium, easy access from kings cross too, wouldn't be a bad place to host the challenge cup final in the future

Do we take losses so badly at international RL as we don't know when the next game will be / there are so few so each defeat seems to matter more? There are 4 England rugby union games that you can book ticket for already but none for rugby league, if we knew what the next game was we could review what went wrong, and what can change, now it's just hypothetical scenarios for our next game as nobody knows what it is / when it will be

The lack of a plan is a reuccuring joke. Despite lower than expected sales thousands from Newcastle, Coventry, Middlesbrough, Sheffield and London have attended games this World Cup.

I'd be offering those in the North East who bought WC tickets a cheap Magic Weekend ticket for starters, and if England are playing games at home next year get them announced and offer anyone who bought a WC ticket 'priority' tickets, make people feel they are getting something special.

If the marketing department had anything about them, they'd have been handing out flyers as fans left the Emirates on Saturday for next year's challenge cup final as well

But that would mean they'd have to have a modicum of common sense and forward thinking

Popular opinion in Australia is that the SOO rules need changing so that players can't pick a Tier 2 nation over Australia and still take part.

If Samoa were to win on Saturday that would definitely happen and you'll never see a Tier 2 nation in a final again.

Bloody Aussies.

England Men and Women to play France in April's international break.

Good to have something in the diary but not sure id have gone with Warrington as the venue as both last years England game and the WC group games had poor crowds (crowds at Hull were also poor before anyone pipes up

) id have gone with a small ground in London to try and attract French ex pats, maybe Brentford as its a modern ground and the area has some RL history.

Ideally that would be a warm up fixture for an international against a Tier 1 nation the week after. The they could play a larger competition in the international window at the end of the season. If we are touring at the end of the year a team comes here, if we are not touring we go overseas for 2 games.

England need to play a Tier 1 fixture in this country every year at a big stadium (North London or Newcastle would be a good choice based on previous experience). Any momentum from this tournament will be gone if we only play France in a half empty small ground next year, and we know Australia don't travel the year before a world cup.

At the moment Tier 1 would have to include Samoa, as they made the final.

Agree completely need to keep creating 'events' in areas we have taken the World Cup to. Even playing at St James' or Emirates or Spurs with just the bottom tier open still looks good for TV and draws a different crowd in.

The England v France game is a good opportunity for the "if the game was played at a small stadium in the heartlands and all tickets were £15 it would sell out" crew to put their money where their mouth is.