lol, so happy this thread has upset the few I thought it would. Did anyone else notice the Iron Chef outrated the swans again last week? www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/i ... -shkr.html Quote Iron Chef takes a slice out of the Swans again RICHARD HINDS April 16, 2010 THE total Sydney metropolitan audience for the Swans match against Richmond on Saturday night was about 79,000. This not only left Ten eating the dust of its commercial and taxpayer-funded rivals, the total free-to-air and pay-TV audience was just 4000 more than enjoyed the Anglophile pleasures of A Touch of Frost and Heartbeat on Seven's digital affiliate. Of those who did cheer the red and the white, an alarming - for AFL pioneers and Ten advertisers - 52,000 watched the match on half-hour delay on Ten. To that paltry figure you can add the 14,000 tuned into Ten's digital stablemate, One. Because the SCG game had been rescheduled from Saturday afternoon to avoid a traffic clash with the AJC Derby at Randwick, the original rights-holder Foxtel was also permitted to show the game live. While Foxtel is reluctant to release figures, it is unlikely more than 13,000 viewers took that option. Which brings the total audience to 79,000, and raises the question often mischievously posed by the NRL as it positions itself to gain a bigger slice of the television rights pie: did the Swans beat their Saturday night nemesis, the Iron Chef? Not last Saturday when an average 112,000 viewers preferred to watch vegetables sliced and diced on SBS than Richmond sliced and diced by Sydney. Even using the combined Ten-One-Foxtel figure, the Swans were last in their 7.30pm-10.30pm timeslot, overshadowed by the ABC's blue-rinse specials The Bill/Blue Murder/Midsomer Murders (combined average 212,000) and the movies Underdog and Four Weddings and a Funeral on Seven (163,000) and Win A Date With Tad Hamilton and Life Or Something Like It on Nine (144,000). That made it Iron Chef 2, Swans 0 this season. The aproned oriental also outrated the well-publicised season-opener against St Kilda which drew an average of 100,000 viewers (84,000 on Ten, 16,000 on One). Again, the Swans were last in their timeslot. None of which will surprise AFL executives who, despite their expansionist rhetoric, are acutely aware of the difficulties of penetrating Sydney's prime-time market. Undaunted, they have adopted the counter-intuitive position that poor viewing figures provide an even greater incentive to promote the game in the western suburbs. However, as the NRL begins its own TV rights negotiations, the AFL's inability to improve ratings that have flat-lined in the 14 years post-1996 grand final must be a concern. AFL officials will be well aware Ten executives were recently seen flirting with NRL chief David Gallop. Ten's commitment to showing the Swans in Saturday prime-time has been laudable.However, to Seven and Nine executives who tried and quickly discarded prime-time AFL, it provides an example of the popular definition of lunacy - doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. The challenge for the AFL in its next rights negotiation (from 2012 onward) is that, with the NRL finally flexing some muscle, it could face a tougher battle to extract the $1 billion for five years that will fund northern expansion. Given a large baked-on audience in its heartland and the capacity to sell an extra game with an expanded 18-team competition, the Sydney ratings are not make or break. But they compromise the self-portrait the AFL paints of a thriving, fully national competition. The AFL's propagandists already have Karmichael Hunt on the Gold Coast. Perhaps the GWS franchise should start talks with the Iron Chef.'" love the iron chef.

lol, so happy this thread has upset the few I thought it would. Did anyone else notice the Iron Chef outrated the swans again last week? www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/i ... -shkr.html Quote Iron Chef takes a slice out of the Swans again RICHARD HINDS April 16, 2010 THE total Sydney metropolitan audience for the Swans match against Richmond on Saturday night was about 79,000. This not only left Ten eating the dust of its commercial and taxpayer-funded rivals, the total free-to-air and pay-TV audience was just 4000 more than enjoyed the Anglophile pleasures of A Touch of Frost and Heartbeat on Seven's digital affiliate. Of those who did cheer the red and the white, an alarming - for AFL pioneers and Ten advertisers - 52,000 watched the match on half-hour delay on Ten. To that paltry figure you can add the 14,000 tuned into Ten's digital stablemate, One. Because the SCG game had been rescheduled from Saturday afternoon to avoid a traffic clash with the AJC Derby at Randwick, the original rights-holder Foxtel was also permitted to show the game live. While Foxtel is reluctant to release figures, it is unlikely more than 13,000 viewers took that option. Which brings the total audience to 79,000, and raises the question often mischievously posed by the NRL as it positions itself to gain a bigger slice of the television rights pie: did the Swans beat their Saturday night nemesis, the Iron Chef? Not last Saturday when an average 112,000 viewers preferred to watch vegetables sliced and diced on SBS than Richmond sliced and diced by Sydney. Even using the combined Ten-One-Foxtel figure, the Swans were last in their 7.30pm-10.30pm timeslot, overshadowed by the ABC's blue-rinse specials The Bill/Blue Murder/Midsomer Murders (combined average 212,000) and the movies Underdog and Four Weddings and a Funeral on Seven (163,000) and Win A Date With Tad Hamilton and Life Or Something Like It on Nine (144,000). That made it Iron Chef 2, Swans 0 this season. The aproned oriental also outrated the well-publicised season-opener against St Kilda which drew an average of 100,000 viewers (84,000 on Ten, 16,000 on One). Again, the Swans were last in their timeslot. None of which will surprise AFL executives who, despite their expansionist rhetoric, are acutely aware of the difficulties of penetrating Sydney's prime-time market. Undaunted, they have adopted the counter-intuitive position that poor viewing figures provide an even greater incentive to promote the game in the western suburbs. However, as the NRL begins its own TV rights negotiations, the AFL's inability to improve ratings that have flat-lined in the 14 years post-1996 grand final must be a concern. AFL officials will be well aware Ten executives were recently seen flirting with NRL chief David Gallop. Ten's commitment to showing the Swans in Saturday prime-time has been laudable.However, to Seven and Nine executives who tried and quickly discarded prime-time AFL, it provides an example of the popular definition of lunacy - doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. The challenge for the AFL in its next rights negotiation (from 2012 onward) is that, with the NRL finally flexing some muscle, it could face a tougher battle to extract the $1 billion for five years that will fund northern expansion. Given a large baked-on audience in its heartland and the capacity to sell an extra game with an expanded 18-team competition, the Sydney ratings are not make or break. But they compromise the self-portrait the AFL paints of a thriving, fully national competition. The AFL's propagandists already have Karmichael Hunt on the Gold Coast. Perhaps the GWS franchise should start talks with the Iron Chef.'" love the iron chef.

AFL on 3 channels and they get 79,000 viewers in sydney

theyve been around for nearly 30 years, made 2 grand finals recently, had millions spent on them and for what?

The AFL's propagandists already have Karmichael Hunt on the Gold Coast. Perhaps the GWS franchise should start talks with the Iron Chef.




even the journos now are using the kind of lines us league fans have been using for ages.

theres a good chance AFL will get less money than it expects as other networks chase the nrl

fox cant afford to lose league, nor can 9. but without the large fox money 7 and 10 cant afford their current AFL bids

AFL fails to crack sydney market

solution bring in another team and throw even more money at it

NRL meanwhile has places begging for teams, having stadiums built by governments etc.

funny thing is, the swans got 54k in prime time and the storm got 40k from midnight to 2am

southerns just don't get it, we don't like the game and they think by putting in a second team in W Sydney we'll all start following it all of a sudden as if we've never seen the game before.

Idiots, don't they realise W Sydney get the same TV shows as East Sydney?

Bunch of morons.

The fans think the AFL will pump $$$$$ into them to keep them going, which they will, but what happens after 5 years and it's still bleeding?

Remember, this is the AFL's second go at W Sydney, they conveniently forget that the North Melbourne Kangaroos played here about a decade ago and lasted a few games.

And if the AFL doesn't get the big TV deal this time or next time, how are they going to fund new money pitts at once whilst proping up dying Vic clubs who actually have a history and support.

What happens to them, do they keep the old clubs going mor keep the money pitts?

sorry for the spelling, using the wifes laptop and it's driving me crazy.

Friggin touch pad with a keyboard the size of a bar of chocolate.

@#$%&%

mate, thanks again for the ratings.

it used to be so much fun poking fun of AFL each week

didnt realize the ratings were so poor

i forgot about the kangaroos coming to sydney and failing!

heck they failed in canberra too

liars.

Iron Chef Chen Kenichi kicks a super goal.

9 points.

Quote What Australia watched, Friday Description Total Sydney Melbourne Brisbane Adelaide Perth 1 SEVEN NEWS Seven 1,260,000 319,000 348,000 252,000 152,000 189,000 2 BETTER HOMES AND GARDENS Seven 1,178,000 305,000 379,000 213,000 128,000 153,000 3 NINE NEWS Nine 1,119,000 365,000 350,000 188,000 118,000 99,000 4 TODAY TONIGHT Seven 1,107,000 243,000 315,000 236,000 149,000 164,000 5 A CURRENT AFFAIR Nine 1,054,000 368,000 309,000 178,000 99,000 100,000 6 ABC NEWS ABC1 973,000 267,000 314,000 155,000 105,000 132,000 7 TWO AND A HALF MEN -RPT Nine 923,000 301,000 297,000 169,000 80,000 8 HOME AND AWAY Seven 859,000 250,000 247,000 161,000 100,000 100,000 9 TEN NEWS AT FIVE Ten 773,000 207,000 236,000 151,000 76,000 103,000 10 THE 7PM PROJECT Ten 730,000 176,000 218,000 165,000 76,000 95,000 11 SEVEN'S AFL: RND 4: WEST COAST VS ESSENDON Seven 713,000 17,000 373,000 12,000 125,000 186,000 13 NINE'S LIVE FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL Nine 669,000 408,000 261,000 15 WAKING THE DEAD ABC1 638,000 168,000 191,000 97,000 91,000 91,000 25 NINE'S FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL Nine 412,000 282,000 130,000 43 HITLER'S BODYGUARD SBS ONE 203,000 61,000 68,000 47,000 18,000 10,000 209 NINE'S FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL LATE Nine 36,000 25,000 3,000 8,000'" blogs.sunherald.com.au/whoweare/ lol, more people watched RL after midnight in Melbourne than the 10:30 kick off of the fumbling in Sydney and Brisbane combined.

Quote What Australia watched, Friday Description Total Sydney Melbourne Brisbane Adelaide Perth 1 SEVEN NEWS Seven 1,260,000 319,000 348,000 252,000 152,000 189,000 2 BETTER HOMES AND GARDENS Seven 1,178,000 305,000 379,000 213,000 128,000 153,000 3 NINE NEWS Nine 1,119,000 365,000 350,000 188,000 118,000 99,000 4 TODAY TONIGHT Seven 1,107,000 243,000 315,000 236,000 149,000 164,000 5 A CURRENT AFFAIR Nine 1,054,000 368,000 309,000 178,000 99,000 100,000 6 ABC NEWS ABC1 973,000 267,000 314,000 155,000 105,000 132,000 7 TWO AND A HALF MEN -RPT Nine 923,000 301,000 297,000 169,000 80,000 8 HOME AND AWAY Seven 859,000 250,000 247,000 161,000 100,000 100,000 9 TEN NEWS AT FIVE Ten 773,000 207,000 236,000 151,000 76,000 103,000 10 THE 7PM PROJECT Ten 730,000 176,000 218,000 165,000 76,000 95,000 11 SEVEN'S AFL: RND 4: WEST COAST VS ESSENDON Seven 713,000 17,000 373,000 12,000 125,000 186,000 13 NINE'S LIVE FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL Nine 669,000 408,000 261,000 15 WAKING THE DEAD ABC1 638,000 168,000 191,000 97,000 91,000 91,000 25 NINE'S FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL Nine 412,000 282,000 130,000 43 HITLER'S BODYGUARD SBS ONE 203,000 61,000 68,000 47,000 18,000 10,000 209 NINE'S FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL LATE Nine 36,000 25,000 3,000 8,000'" blogs.sunherald.com.au/whoweare/ lol, more people watched RL after midnight in Melbourne than the 10:30 kick off of the fumbling in Sydney and Brisbane combined.

wow the AFL ratings have dropped around 20% since the last i saw them

and thats without regionals, or the fact that AFL is being shown in 5 capitals

AFL ratings - adelaide and perth combined = 300,000 viewers

RL regional areas = 450,000 viewers

that's why afl fundamentalists don't like to use them.

For those who say we don't bother with the crowds hehe.


19,491 at the SFS for the Tigers v Bulldogs
21,336 at for the Titans v Saints

Anyone found the mythical link to Super 14 crowds yet?

have better luck finding the loche ness monster

these threads must make sad reading for the union trolls and for JB.

true, notice they haven't touched it?

thats why its fun bumping it every couple of days ....

lol, there's a whole season to go yet with rep games later in the year being played at the same time as the wannabies

14,205 Newcastle v Nth QLD

Still no crowd under 10k for the NRL and we're halfway through round 6.

That's never happened in the history of Australian RL to get so far into the season without a sub 10k crowd..

Wigan and Leeds get that and rugby league is behind football, rugby union, golf and cricket in terms of "national sport" over here.

14k for a "national sport" is embarassing.

sssshhhh, there wetting their pants at not getting under 10K ffs!

Could you imagine AFL or Premier League soccer being so excited at 14k?

could i imagine you not watching the weagles you sad twit

I know!! 14k is embarassing