Thanks for a proper response unlike others. Thing is I’ve never actually “this is the right way” or “this is the wrong way”. Just thrown something out in relation to the upcoming interchange ruling which is probably the most significant change for this season on the pitch.

Wow, Hull have got a fair old reserve team with the like of Kelly, Connor & Shaul.

I agree it is and it's been brought up a few times on our forum. My opinion is, I don't think it will make much difference to how we use props because we'll still go with 4 in the 17, I still think they'll interchange the same way but coaches won't go with backs on the bench and will probably get back rowers to do longer minutes. I think maybe more tactics will come into play in how interchanges are used and who's on the bench depending what team your playing. Tbh though, there were so many games you'd watch where teams would have a couple of interchanges to go with 10 minutes left and coaches sometimes looked like they'd just stick who was left on the bench for the sake of it, usually the spare back and a backrower. it's going to be interesting though to see how teams play the 8 interchanges rule, whether they'll say go with 80-minute hookers more, similar with backrowers.

Wow two days for that, I’m so glad you bothered.

So who did we play last year, your ladies team?

Sorry to upset you Vastman but it's just a fact, don't throw teddy out of cot again.

Not sure who your referring to when you say 'Your' my team (The mighty giants) beat wakefield 3 out of 4 times last season after been told your pack would steam roll us, yet they were none existent? Infact, wakefields very own Matty English showed your forwards up.

Are you sure about that? because we beat you early on 22-4, our pack dominated yours. Beat you in the Super8's 16-42 at your place, Trinity's pack was even more dominant and that was without Fifita, 3 forwards all doing over 100m, Pauli Pauli doing 153m. In between, you just beat us 22-25, which could have gone either way, except Brough landed his goals and Finn missed for BJB's try with about 10 to go but set up an exciting finish anyway even though we agonisingly lost.

The only game out of the whole lot where you could close to claiming what you did was when you beat us 40-28. Even the 22-14 CC loss wasn't down to a non-existent pack, you lot just outplayed us in that 2nd half. So 3-2 in all games to you, well done.



By the way, I'm not going to talk young Matty English down, he played well in the CC but apart from that game he played in 2 others making 71 meters & 50, so I'm not sure why the need to bring him up and try to put our forwards down after one good display.

3 out of 5 then



Every time we play you your pack is beaten by ours yet all you do is bang on about your pack, truth is your pack will get beaten up by the likes of Saints, Cas, Hull etc there soft from what I have seen you are no where near them in terms of your forwards. Games you have beaten us, you have done with outperforming us on the flanks.

Not too sure how you can say Matty English has had one good display, he was fantastic in every game he played for us last season.

Not sure how you will do this season but I certainly would put us up there in that top 5 before Wakefield, just don`t get all the hype at all, sorry just my opinion.

It's not hype, it's the consistency
of the last 3 seasons. 8th, 5th and then 5th again.

I think that warrants a level of confidence , dont you



Of course, a ball hasn't been passed or kicked in the new season so, nobody actually knows who will finish where but past form is the only barometer that we have.

Huddersfield will be in the top 8 and if everything goes well injury wise, you may even mak a charge at a semi final spot. Again, we'll have to wait and see.

Does it? Leeds finished 5th twice in a row and still get stick about it. Wakefield finish 5th twice, the latter of which because the other teams basically gave up, and its some sort of great achievement. You were in the mix to finish bottom 4 with 2 games to go last year against a Leeds team that most agree was the worst performing Leeds squad in our SL history against what your fans are calling your best built squad in SL history.

Finish 5th this year when 5th means something, rather than when Catalans don’t give a damn because they have the cup or Hull have given up because 4th is out of reach and THEN people might be impressed.

And that isn’t trolling before you usual suspect start, that’s just reality. 8 out of the 12 SL teams have won silverware in the last 5 years Wakefield boasting about finishing OUTSIDE the crucial positions ISN’T impressive.

Roll your eyes all you want mate but you talked about facts and then couldn't even get the number of games we played right and more specifically how many times we beat you.

It's your opinion that your pack beats ours every time but the evidence suggests that's completely wrong. How can a team get spanked 16-42 and not be dominated in the forwards, that's frankly ridiculous. Similar when you got beat at the start of last season 22-4 , your pack again got bullied. Tbh I can't believe you're trying to paint it any other way, saying we won those games by some distance even though your forwards were on top.



You say that all I do, which I'd love to see how I've done this, is bang on about our pack but I think you'll find that I bang on about our backs as well, I'm balanced like that.

By the way, I brought up Matty English having one good display against us because you said this linking him to his displays against us and his one good game he had, why should I talk about anything else.

Don't really care how Hudds do this season tbh but I'd put us above you because we simply have a better team and squad. Your pack looks weak. Just my opinion hey.

How was he boasting? he just pointed out we've been consistent, my interpretation of boasting and yours must be miles apart but that's not a surprise really.

Honestly, If you can't see the difference between where Wakefield has been in previous seasons and decades and where Leeds have and take out of that why it's a measure of improvement and relative success since CC took over, you're on the wind-up. Considering we don't spend the full cap and don't have any marquee players etc, it has been a fairly amazing turn around from where we were. If you want to $hit on that, which you obviously do - crack on mate.

When Leeds finished 5th twice and won the title, even your own fans thought it was a farce that you could coast in the regular season and then turn up and win the GF, not that I've read anyone still giving you stick about it. Anyway not sure what that has to do with Trinity apart from the finishing positions under a different structure.

Also, we finished 5th because other teams gave up, alright Printer whatever makes you feel better - the fact is you've no proof for what you say apart from it fitting in with your anti-Trinity agenda. By the way, did Hudds give up as well because they finished 5th after 23 rounds and had a chance of still making the 4?

You can say you're not trolling all you want but when you just pull out Trinity supporters posts like your getting paid for it, it is what it is. Boring.

I'm sorry that Lawrence at Huddersfield didn't get to face a full strength Bradford on Sunday as it would have swelled the gate for his testimonial. These lads put their body on the line for our entertainment so anyone getting to a testimonial stage has my respect. As it was we split the first team roughly in half to play Saturday night in the pre-season Yorkshire cup semi, and Sunday against Huddersfield.

We beat Dewsbury 20-18 and lost to Huddersfield 56-12. Given the way we had to split the team, it's hard to draw many conclusions other than Dewsbury are solid, Huddersfield look pretty good, and Bradford will probably go ok.

5th for Trinity, with their meagre budget is one hell of an achievement and it was in the super 8's which was supposed to mean something. After all 4th was a semi final spot ??

And yes, a 5th place finish should mean that Leeds get some stick, they are supposed to be one of the top 2 clubs in the country, therefore, finishing 3rd (or worse) is an under achievement for Leeds.

As for "boasting", my post was in reply to a Huddersfield fan asking why Trinity should be "expecting" a higher place finish than them (Huddersfield).

It's quite hilarious when people like you dismiss clubs like Trinity, when they are doing prett well (for their size and income), after all we are a long way behind the spending power of most SL clubs and can only dream of spending the full cap with a couple of marque players thrown in as well.

With your current obsession for all things Trinity, perhaps you should come down to Bell Vue, instead of Headingley.

Trial game fixtures :

Friday 18th January Coventry v Leeds (7.30pm) London Skolars v Wigan (2pm)

Saturday 19th January St Helens v Hull FC (2pm) Hull KR v Toronto (2pm)

Sunday 20 January Workington v Huddersfield Leeds v Castleford (3pm) Barrow v Whitehaven (3pm) Salford v Wigan (2pm) Warrington v Widnes (3pm) Doncaster v London Broncos (3pm) Swinton v North Wales (3pm) Oldham v Rochdale (3pm) Batley v Bradford (2pm)

Tuesday 22 January Wakefield v Huddersfield (7.30pm)

Friday 25th January London Skolars v London Broncos (7pm) Catalans v Toulouse (7.30pm) Bradford v Toronto (7.30pm)

Saturday 26th January Barrow v Wigan (3pm) Rochdale v Warrington (3pm)

Sunday 27th January Featherstone v Leeds (3pm) Swinton v Oldham (3pm) Widnes v North Wales (3pm) Leigh v London Broncos (3pm)

Saturday 2nd February West Wales v Wigan (2pm)

Sunday 3rd February Hunslet v Leeds (3pm) Oldham v Newcastle (3pm)

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St Helens 28-18 Hull FC

Jake Connor caused controversy at Saints when he was sin-binned for dissent. He also ended up on the floor following a second-half scuffle.
It takes some doing to earn a yellow card in the pre-season but the Hull FC player managed it after Zeb Taia’s first-half try.

Coach Lee Radford wasn’t happy post-match “whilst it’s good to see Connor get under the skin of the opposition, he needs to tread the line carefully and not end up costing Hull when the real season kicks off “

Hull KR 24 - Toronto Wolfpack 14

Hull KR coach Tim Sheens was satisfied with his side’s pre-season victory against Toronto Wolfpack – with the match’s intensity particularly pleasing ahead of what’s to come.

“ I was very happy with the two wins but also with the standard of the game from both teams. A lot of set-for-set, tough tough football that first 20 minutes,".

“We struggled a bit with Toronto’s offloading but we threw it back at them in the second half. The players maybe got a bit confused with me wanting completions, holding onto the ball more rather than playing a bit more open football with our attack but I was pleased with our defence”

I see that Saints named 15 subs today, that’s even more ridiculous than the 13 Wakefield named last weekend....(see it’s not just you)

Newcastle 16 Wakey 6. No idea how many subs got used though I guess it was a young side

Enjoyed the game today. Welsby showed why he’s the most highly rated youngster in England. Another from The Saints production line. If only it wasn’t us Leeds and Wigan who could produce quality players. The Connor incident was nothing. Good news for England in that in his first game back Walmsley was immense as was another product of the world famous St. Helens academy Jack Ashworth. He mullered the hull football club forwards.

Friendly or not, Hull were dreadful and only looked interested when Saints brought on the reserves and youngsters. They’re in for a long season I think. Coote looked very good as did Naiqama and Paulo. Walmsley really good on his return as well.

Biggest pile of BS force fed by the club and its pet sports editor at Hull Daily Mail. Yes they had good chunk of injuries but no more than Cas Leeds Wigan ourselves or Widnes. If even a part of the local rumours are true they are a shambles behind closed doors. Signed nothing but kids or jobbers. Yes Radford conjured 2 cups but that was on the back of Ellis running the team, and the spirit and professionalism is long gone. Matty Jones biggest signing says it all. Them and London for wooden spoon imo.


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Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"Enjoyed the game today. Welsby showed why he’s the most highly rated youngster in England. Another from The Saints production line. If only it wasn’t us Leeds and Wigan who could produce quality players. The Connor incident was nothing. Good news for England in that in his first game back Walmsley was immense as was another product of the world famous St. Helens academy [uJack Ashworth.[/u He mullered the hull football club forwards.'" He could be on DR @ Leigh along with Matty Costello, Adam Swift, and Jack Welsby. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/of ... ossip-146/

Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"Enjoyed the game today. Welsby showed why he’s the most highly rated youngster in England. Another from The Saints production line. If only it wasn’t us Leeds and Wigan who could produce quality players. The Connor incident was nothing. Good news for England in that in his first game back Walmsley was immense as was another product of the world famous St. Helens academy [uJack Ashworth.[/u He mullered the hull football club forwards.'" He could be on DR @ Leigh along with Matty Costello, Adam Swift, and Jack Welsby. https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/of ... ossip-146/

Leeds 24 Cas 26. Maybe more between the sides than the score suggests - cas missed 5 kicks from 6...

you do realise 6 or 7 of our starting squad didnt play?