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| queensland did look like they werent trying when it was 18 - 6 up.
the intensity wasnt there last night.
the no call try on hayne was wrong and wouldve given the baby blues much needed confidence.
jarred hayne was unbelievable.
all my saints players covered themselves in glory. benny creagh was brilliant.
campese should be dropped for mullen
i expect nsw to lose the series but they have finally blooded the youngsters that will win future series.
and michael jennings was very good as well, as was wing and farah
jamie lyon was disappointing
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| Wing should start game 2, when he came on the Blues looked alot better and far more dangerous.
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| Hayne has been in sublime form for Parra for the last month, and he didn't disappoint for NSW. Great return to Origin. Keep it up, Jazza, and we'll have the privilege of seeing an all-time great backline come Tri-Nations '09.
1. Billy Slater
2. Jarryd Hayne
3. Greg Inglis
4. Justin Hodges
5. Israel Folau
6. Darren Lockyer
7. Johnathan Thurston
They're all bloody freaks.
Back to Origin. I disagree with anyone calling for wholesale changes, the side only needs tweaking.
I personally think the halves should not be changed. In my opinion, we have made our choice there for the series, at the very least. Chopping and changing everytime we lose is the worst thing we can do.
Our forwards weren't dominated, neither pack was. But our pack do need to gain more of an ascendency, otherwise our halves will provide nothing again. I'm sorry, but Bull Bailey either has to go completely or be relegated to the bench. He got smashed in those opening exchanges.
Kite is doing fark all as well, but who else have we got? The only candidate with the size and aggression we need is Tom Learoyd-Lahrs, but he must put in two more dominant performances before I can fully back him. We have to remember the longest string of games he's played in 5 years of first-grade is just 7. He's on a roll of 4-5 strong games at the moment, he needs to push hard now to prove his worth.
Gallen back in for Laffranchi. Don't care that his character is in question, this is footy.
McManus? Don't think he was as bad as most people seem to be saying. There are a few players who I think could do a better job, like Monaghan, the Morris twins, and maybe even Lawrence if he's right from injury.
Also wonder if we really need Lewis, but i'm going to pay close attention to all candidates over the next two weeks.
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| stuart. gallen . will be in the team .like they were .before injuries,suspension
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| Team for Origin II
1. Kurt Gidley
2. Jarryd Hayne
3. Michael Jennings
4. Josh Morris
5. Joel Monaghan/Brett Morris
6. Terry Campese
7. Jarrod Mullen
8. Justin Poore
9. Robbie Farah
10. Michael Weyman
11. Luke O'Donnell
12. Ben Creagh
13. Paul Gallen
14. Craig Wing
15. Glenn Stewart
16. Brent Kite
17. Luke Bailey
Lyon was disappointing, the only time he made a break he put the kick in which the Maroons pounced on. It was on 3rd tackle and they were 20m out. Also Morris is bigger, stronger and quicker to be able to cope with Inglis so i'd go with him. Mullen is the best option at 7 IMO, Wallace looks okay playing in a good Broncos team but isn't good enough for Origin he's not creative enough, his kicking game was shocking, even his passes were going to ground.Creagh and O'Donnell were outstanding so Gallen will come in for Laffranchi and Stewart will take Lewis' place on the bench, and hopefully Wing comes on earlier than the 54th minute next time. The Dragons props were great so i'd start them both but who is there to replace Bailey or Kite? Galloway, O'Meley, Mason.
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| Quote ="LS14 RHINO"Team for Origin II
1. Kurt Gidley
2. Jarryd Hayne
3. Michael Jennings
4. Josh Morris
5. Joel Monaghan/Brett Morris
6. Terry Campese
7. Jarrod Mullen
8. Justin Poore
9. Robbie Farah
10. Michael Weyman
11. Luke O'Donnell
12. Ben Creagh
13. Paul Gallen
14. Craig Wing
15. Glenn Stewart
16. Brent Kite
17. Luke Bailey
Lyon was disappointing, the only time he made a break he put the kick in which the Maroons pounced on. It was on 3rd tackle and they were 20m out. Also Morris is bigger, stronger and quicker to be able to cope with Inglis so i'd go with him. Mullen is the best option at 7 IMO, Wallace looks okay playing in a good Broncos team but isn't good enough for Origin he's not creative enough, his kicking game was shocking, even his passes were going to ground.Creagh and O'Donnell were outstanding so Gallen will come in for Laffranchi and Stewart will take Lewis' place on the bench, and hopefully Wing comes on earlier than the 54th minute next time. The Dragons props were great so i'd start them both but who is there to replace Bailey or Kite? Galloway, O'Meley, Mason.'"
Just a quick question.
Why does Jamie Soward never get selected. I think he is a good player myself. Not only him, why hasn't John Sutton been thought about? I know he has just come back from an injury, but surely he could get in the side?
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| Quote ="Daz_4"Just a quick question.
Why does Jamie Soward never get selected. I think he is a good player myself. Not only him, why hasn't John Sutton been thought about? I know he has just come back from an injury, but surely he could get in the side?'"
jamie soward has more important tasks to take care of than winning the origin series for nsw.
weve contributed enough of our players for nsw.
let him concentrate on winning the NRL this year.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"jamie soward has more important tasks to take care of than winning the origin series for nsw.
weve contributed enough of our players for nsw.
let him concentrate on winning the NRL this year.'"
Im pretty sure the Blues and Bellamy dont give a crap about that
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| Quote ="Daz_4"Just a quick question.
Why does Jamie Soward never get selected. I think he is a good player myself. Not only him, why hasn't John Sutton been thought about? I know he has just come back from an injury, but surely he could get in the side?'"
I think the selectors are worried about Soward's defence for Origin and Sutton played in the City-Country game but then got injured and wasn't expected to be fit.
I think Campese deserved his chance and i hpoe they stick with him for the rest of the series, it's Wallace they need rid of.
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| cmon u cockroaches
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| I still think Hindmarsh should be in the squad, he's still good and maybe the blues need some experience and leadership in the forwards, i think he has something like 16 origin appearances. It was quality when he chased down Gidley after a break from the Knights.
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| Peter Wallace can not get picked for Origin II surely. He was bad enough in the first game and then even worse against the Storm. He looks okay in a Broncos team at the side of Lockyer but who wouldn't.
Jarrod Mullen has been playing well but what about Matt Orford he's playing well and would bring some much needed experience to the Blues. What have the selectors got against him? whatever it is needs sorting out or whoever it is needs sacking because if they stick with Wallace it will be 3-0 Queensland.
Jamie Lyon and Luke Lewis both got injured this weekend, dont know how long they're gonna be out but hopefully Lyon misses game II and they bring Josh Morris in.
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| we have a shortage of halbacks stand-oofs. 5-8s
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| jamie soward s**ts on wallace and campese from a great height.
what a game last night despite saints playing below par for much of the game.
and we were robbed.
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"I still think Hindmarsh should be in the squad, he's still good and maybe the blues need some experience and leadership in the forwards, i think he has something like 16 origin appearances. It was quality when he chased down Gidley after a break from the Knights.'"
Many share your sentiments, but we've just gotta accept he's now got a permanent black line through his name.
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| Luke Lewis has been ruled out for the rest of the Origin series with a toe injury. I dont think he would of played anyway with Gallen and Stewart back.
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| Quote ="CGD"Many share your sentiments, but we've just gotta accept he's now got a permanent black line through his name.'"
Unfortunately true
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| Luke Bailey has been ruled out of Origin II, who will replace him? Tommy Learoyd-Lahrs, Brett White, they cant go for O'Meley or Mason surely.
How good is Shackleton who's just signed for the Eels with Justin Poore? i haven't seen him for the Roosters this season.
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| Hmm, interesting selections ahead. Well just the one, at prop.
I've heard quite a bit of radio talk for TLL in the last week or so now. You would have to think it's him if he puts in a good performance on Sunday. He's fine at prop, but it's funnier watching him run wider, bodies go flying.
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| Jarrod Mullen has not done himself any favours tonight against the warriors, hes been terrible IMO!
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| Quote ="christopher"Jarrod Mullen has not done himself any favours tonight against the warriors, hes been terrible IMO!'"
Neither has Peter Wallace against the Dogs and Wallace has been crap for alot of the season and doesn't deserve a place in the Origin team. I think Matt Orford has been playing better than any other NSW 7 but the selectors wont pick him no matter how good he plays so Jarrod Mullen will get in with Campese IMO. Apart from the last 2 games he's been great and they've got to go with him cos with Wallace they will definately get beat.
The Knights were never gonna win away in NZ without Kurt Gidley.
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