See my previous posts.

Really? I'd love you to find some evidence of that. No team can have the success we have had in the last few years without a bit of luck. I notice the chap you quoted didn't say the winning try was flukey. I thought there were a few perplexing decisions, some went for Leeds some went against. Don't let that get in the way of your increasingly embarrassing argument.

Quick question. Do you hate Leeds more than you like Bradford?

No mention of Bentham ignoring several Wigan forward passes yet?

To call Lee Smiths try a fluke is an insult to his ability. Lee Smith has been scoring ‘flukes’ all his Rhinos career including that one in last years grand final. Sean Long, Danny McGuire and Lee Briars are other rugby league players that get accused of been ‘flukes’.

When in reality they gifted to do something really genius on the pitch now and again. Now I demand you write an open apology on these boards just in case an acquaintance of Lee Smith happens to come across your blasphemy.

If you don’t then you are a disgrace to these boards and a discredit to the game of rugby league on a whole. Shame on you for bringing this into dispute.

Grow a conscious and a soul.

If you can’t then at least have the ability to provide us with your wisdom on flukey snooker moments and fluke darts.

Please. Neither do i. But, If Smith hadn't climbed the hoarding and his teammates hadn't come so close to getting in the ruddy stand the Wigan fans then those few might not have kicked off. It's wrong, and the culprits should be ashamed of themselves/banned, but i understand why they reacted...

Do you mean everyone in general or just Ewwenorfolk?

No chance. If that was Saints/Warrington/Wakefield etc etc I would be putting forward the same argument. It was lucky/flukey/jammy that that missed tackle occured in the dying moments, right near the tryline.

The try wasn't a fluke, but Amos knocking on was the bit of luck Leeds needed. It was a missed tackle - simples...

Having read your posts, it would seem that you think the try was flukey purely because it was in the 79th minute. Surely you're not basing your entire argument on this

It was a good try, even if it was a flukey one. But to call it a genius piece of play is ridiculous.

Will Lee Smith go tell his mum if I don't say sorry.

After all he couldn't take living a few hundred miles away from his mummy could he?

And because a defence that held up solid all game happened to miss one of its few missed tackles right next to the line.

If Lee Smith had have stepped the first man - no fluke. The man slipped off him, that was lucky for leeds / unlucky for wigan (whichever) but it made the try flukey.

I bet Bradford supporters are cringing at Ewwenorfolk. What an embarrassment

Where was it called a genius piece of play? I think I said Smith made him miss. Which he did, whether that was because he was knackered or not Smith made him miss by running the angle he did.

Last week Saints scored 14 tries on the back of 33 missed tackles by HKR. Were Saints lucky?

That was my initial thought.

But, thinking about it, clamping down on kickers being taken out late means that players aren't allowed to jump in at kickers and claim they were committed. The whole point of the rule is to protect kickers being hit without the ball.

No because they happened consistently throughout the game.

There's a big difference between missing shedloads of tackles throughout the game and standing solid for most of it then missing a vital tackle in the last minute.

Nah, they wasn't Wigan fans, Wigan's fans are all angels, they were more likely Wire fans in Wigan tops.

So basically the main message is that missed tackles are flukey and absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with a lack of tackling skill or tiredness. Because they are, of course, purely dependent on the fluke factor

By Damo.

If he was knackered then Smith didn't make him miss, fatigue did.

Your at it again belittling the significance that Lee Smith did in the very last minute. The Wigan defence was on top all game and it took Leeds 80 minutes to break it.

How deluded can you get?

A quirky ball bounce is fluky, Gleason missing the tackle, is just poor tackling.

How deluded can you get?

Do you think Lee Smith planned to win it in the last minute? You'd be an idiot to think they wouldn't have loved to have it wrapped up at half time.

Which makes it flukey that it occured next to the tryline, in the last minute.

It definitely means it was not Lee Smith's genius.

No, when he ran onto the ball and stepped Gleeson, his main aim was to get under the posts so Sinfield could drop a goal and we would lose by 1 point.

You absolute embarrassment!