Modern sensitivities?


What is wrong with someone objecting to Fury's views? Unless you're one Fury's tribe of ted supporters who only think free speech is allowed one way.

Ah well at least incidents like Fury, Farage, Griffin etc flush out the racists and homophobes and general scumbags who don't dare stick their head above the parapet.

I didn't realise Nigel F was a Homophobe. Are all euro Sceptics Homophobes?

I suppose if you throw in a couple of polorising characters its adds to your argument. You've won me over.

How would you feel if his remarks/views were not of a sexist or homophobic nature but were racist? Should racist comments be viewed as freedom of speech?

ironic that the 1st and 2nd in the sports "personality" award both have the personality of a pea! but well done to Sinfield, it's a big coup for RL to have someone in 2nd place.

although i do have to say i don't think the award or indeed the night is as prestigious as it used to be, i only watched bits of it last night but the bits i saw seemed to be very PC and sycophantic, awarding awards to NI people in Belfast for example.

oh and on the BBC radio 2 sports news this morning the reporter happily stated that Sinfield is technically a RU player and not a RL player

Eh?


I don't expect to "win" anybody over who supports any of the 3 people I mentioned.

DISCRIMINATION... DISCRIMINATION... DISCRIMINATION... Keep shouting it if it makes you feel empowered....

But.... What exactly is homophobic about what Fury said? Yes it's ridiculous, yes it's religious garbage, yes he deserves to be called out as an absolute cretin and an imbecile (though as someone alluded to, he's getting plenty of PR right now, which is fantastic for PPV sales for his next fight), yes he should be challenged on his views...: but what he said isn't homophobic.... And 50 years ago, most people wouldn't have believed abortion and gay marriage would be made legal (though again most sensible folk nowadays see that it is only right).... Nowhere has he compared gay people to paedophiles... What he said is simply his religious belief (Which is one that is supported by most traveller folk) - we get into really tricky grounds if we ban people from being able to share their religious beliefs - hell, for long enough we've allowed religious hate preachers to get away with much worse:..

If the award was sportsperson of the year would Fury as world heavyweight champion be a reasonable candidate for the award Him?

But not a heart like a pea

No.

Some don't like fury but that's unfortunate cos he ain't going anywhere . Very underrated! Probably doesn't help himself with comments at time but his boxing ability and intelligence in the ring are a different kettle of fish. Proper grown on me in the last year.

Well he really does need to win the rematch. BBC Sport tried rebuilding some of the damage he'd done with his apology on the show instead of buckling to pressure to drop him because from their perspective it wouldn't be great to alienate a heavyweight boxing champion.

Whilst he holds those belts it offers him a slight protection that stops the sports media fully getting the knives out for him.....if he loses them though straight back to Klitschko then the media will fully hang him out to dry.

By his own admission Fury has mental health issues. He talks openly about highs and lows. He mentioned after the fight its likely he will be down for a week.

Maybe he regrets saying a few of his comments. He did make a public apology on SPOTY.

For some of course that wont be good enough.

Those of us who are old farts and remember the 1970's, will giggle at the thought of Mr Fury taking on virtually anyone from the top ten of that time..

Well, err, yeah. Tends to work that way if you've been insulted.

Zucchini is 100% right re what TF was actually saying about the 3 subjects and the worlds ending

true, and in Sinfield's case, humble too

So you think it's OK for Tyson Fury to equate Peodophilia and peodophiles with homosexuality and homosexuals. It's alright right is it, for Fury to compare people who choose or feel forced to have abortions with peodophiles and groomers. While we're condoning his views on the place women should have ie. On their backs or in a kitchen making tea.
Finally it's acceptable to physically threaten someone with a broken jaw and to have some thug jump on his head till he loses consciousness, incidentally this is something that happened to a friend of mine who now needs full time assistance for the rest of his life.

No, I don't like Tyson Fury. I said Zucchini was correct in what he said about what Tyson fury said and meant, rather than some of the made up stuff that seems to be reported.
I'll repeat this - I don't like Tyson Fury and his views. His views however are based on Religion and his Culture, He therefore has every right to say what he wants, and take the consequences that arise from them.

His views are based on religious beliefs so he can say whatever he wants?! Yeah alright then, world's f@@k ed if that's the case. "I don't believe black people should have equal rights" is that OK???

Where and when did Fury equate paedophiles to homosexuals exactly?



What religion are you taking that from?

Honestly, people read/hear what they want to hear in order to take offence at every possible occasion.... Someone said earlier that they were 'insulted' by what he said... Get a life, he didn't say it 'to you' or 'about you', just another 'Outraged' bystander...... People need to get a life if a sportsman they've never met or known can say something and they be 'insulted'.

I would suggest the opposite is true; surely an indication of a civilised society is that we are able to recognise, and object to, offensive or discriminatory behaviour towards anyone, not just ourselves?

With regard to Tyson Fury - he is free of course to hold his bigoted and dim-witted views about anything at all; but the BBC should have withdrawn his nomination off the back of the comments he made.

Well said. Also how does Superted know who would be affected by Fury's comments. I'd imagine there are a fair few gay rugby league fans, and even more who have close friends or relatives who are gay.
Yet again, Fury's supporters getting all wound up that people use the same free speech they bizarrely claim Fury is being denied.


I don't particularly mind the BBC not withdrawing his nomination, it's a tricky decision for them. My main problem is with the 72,000 s who voted for him.

I'm far from a Fury supporter - I wholeheartedly disagree with pretty much everything he says and does, and have a real dislike for the whole 'gypsy' culture and view on life.....

But I also find it ridiculous people are 'offended' by what he actually said - some numpty even went to the length of reporting him to the Police for what he said in the media.... Absolutely ridiculous... And what he said clearly wasn't homophobic otherwise there'd have been Police action:...

Fury is, and should be able to say whatever he wants. Just as, everyone has the right to disagree with what he says, but the idea of him being reported to the police, or being kicked off the awards show is absurd. It just makes a martyr of Fury, and creates a barrier between him, and the rest of society when we should be debating the issue, and trying to explain why Fury's views are so backward.

Also, as I've said before, people who beat people up for a living shouldn't be considered good role models for kids. If some parents are worried that someone like Tyson Fury is having an adverse affect on their child then the problem is with them, and not with Fury.