Well I think we know which team SHOULD lose its license.

But after all the effort and finance pumped in trying to keep it alive, the RFL will clearly not admit they were wrong and have the sense to cut their losses.

Don't think the whino's would be happy

oh imaginary ones......

you can have Ian Kirke if you want.

So there arent any other players that came through at Hull KR and arguing that they would have been had they all (i.e only Ian Kirke and Jon Wilkin) not been stolen by other bigger boys is clearly nonsense. Hull KR have poor youth development because they prioritised their first team ahead of everything else and were happy to live off other peoples cast offs.

How else do you survive the NL1-SL leap without prioritising your first team?

Now youth is coming through, e.g. Watts & Welham.

Absolutley true

Which any club including Leeds would have done if they had been in the same situation as Rovers

It is now slowly changing and they will shortly see the results in the 1 st team

They made a sensible ' business ' decision

You are talking crap as usual

That would be Liam Watts former Cas player would it?

and im not arguing over whether Hull KR should have done anything different. Im saying that blaming it on big bad meanie super league clubs stealing all your talent is nonsense, there was very little for them to steal from you. Hull KR's youth development is as bad as it is because they didnt want to do what was needed to get it to the level of say 'Quins.

Is it? they seem to be still relying on overseas players and cast offs. Now I understand because they are a small time club you feel a kind of affiliation with them, but it isnt a good thing that their youth development is so bad. They should be embarrassed by it

Can you literally not write a sentence without resorting to trolling? Crawl back in your hole.

im not trolling, they are a small-time club, until they achieve something they always will be

They are in their 4 th season of SL , so how many years does it take from scholarship to 1 st team ?

They have nothing to be embarrassed about , what is Leeds excuse for playing in a dump of a stadium after all these years ?

So you choose to ignore the fact that they play in one of the world's premier RL competitions and the fact that they have won a fair smattering of silverware over their history? Seriously, get a grip. They are not small-time in the least.

Your stout refusal to credit HKR at all, for anything, (when even the most ardent Hull FC fan would recognise the improvements that have been made over the river in the last 5 years or so) shows you up for the hole you really are.

Well you signed Liam Watts from Castleford...

Would that be the same Liam watts that many of your fans said had the talent but not the attitude?
Seems to have come on in spades since being with us and his attitude seems to have vanished but I guess Cas can claim that as well eh!
As I have already metioned Sinfield at Leeds (That would be the CAPTAIN of Leeds no less) and Tom Briscoe at FC (Next huge thing by all accounts) came from other regions.
Should the Oldham and Fev regions solely claim the rights to these 2 or do you agree that that would be silly talk?

I guess that makes 75% of SL small time clubs?

Perhaps if Smokey was a bit more specific and explain what this illusive "achievement" is/are then we would all be able to classify all clubs as "big" or not according to the Smokey TA club size rating system. I'm sure it would be a very fair way of doing it, no inherant bias against particular teams oh no. Not with the Smokey TA club size rating system.

So Smokey, what are these "achievements"?

I can't believe SmokeyTA is STILL dissecting threads in order to WIN on the internet.

What a sad act.

They make shed loads of out of it mostly

so all SL clubs are big time clubs?

Tell us what achievements a club needs to attain to be called a "big" club according to the Smokey TA club size rating system and we'll all know!

About time they spent some of it on the ' Shed ' then , dont you think

win something, or at least get to a few finals in the last 10 years, and an attendance of around 10k.

As someone else has already said, unfortunately that makes most clubs in SL small time.

you mean like the millions spent on the Carnegie stand? Or the 10million plus being spent on the southstand?

Hull KR big club then, cheers!