That figure wont be far off in the first test there was 20000 in the ground.!!

Quote ="garethtaylor15"That figure wont be far off in the first test there was 20000 in the ground.!!'" seems my guess aint that far off after all..!!! and another good stat is that shirt sales out sold real madrid... linky www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... Union.html

Quote ="garethtaylor15"That figure wont be far off in the first test there was 20000 in the ground.!!'" seems my guess aint that far off after all..!!! and another good stat is that shirt sales out sold real madrid... linky www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... Union.html

Quote ="garethtaylor15"seems my guess aint that far off after all..!!! and another good stat is that shirt sales out sold real madrid... linky www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... Union.html'" Not been funny mate but what the hell has that got to do with a potential signing for a Super League club - i realise your trying to make us all realise how big Union and/or the Lions are but its a bit of a thread drift !!

Quote ="garethtaylor15"seems my guess aint that far off after all..!!! and another good stat is that shirt sales out sold real madrid... linky www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... Union.html'" Not been funny mate but what the hell has that got to do with a potential signing for a Super League club - i realise your trying to make us all realise how big Union and/or the Lions are but its a bit of a thread drift !!

Quote ="garethtaylor15"seems my guess aint that far off after all..!!! and another good stat is that shirt sales out sold real madrid... linky www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... Union.html'" So why was this huge brand so poorly supported in SA then with half empty stadia for midweek games and not one single test selling out - and since when did numbers equate to quality anyway -millions of flies love sitting on ...

Quote ="garethtaylor15"seems my guess aint that far off after all..!!! and another good stat is that shirt sales out sold real madrid... linky www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... Union.html'" So why was this huge brand so poorly supported in SA then with half empty stadia for midweek games and not one single test selling out - and since when did numbers equate to quality anyway -millions of flies love sitting on ...

It is relvant if you have read the whole thread.

I pointed out Alfie(thats gareth thomas by the way) was captian of the Lions.

THen someone said that no one in england knows who the lions are and they aint a big deal.

So i just proved that its a loud of rubbish.

By the way the crusaders should try and sign a current welsh international namely Andy Powel while they have a chance, if you havent heard of Alf i doubt you would know him... or have you heard of any golf buggy jokes recently.?

Thats becuase of the SA public the tickets where all out priced for the SA general public which was a huge mistake as you could imagine the SA public are very poor. Instead they concentrated on ripping off the British public with huge ticket prices.

Also i do beleive all the tests where sold out.!

Again i hope alf signs but i cant see it been told today hes goin to ospreys shows how highly rated he still is.

And again i say we should be signing Andy Powel now while we have a chance his style would suit league down to the ground .!

PS - how come england couldnt sell out a game against OZ at wigans ground in your own back yard.?

lol, union calculator at work again.

The barmy army was first mentioned in regards to RL, yet it doesn't stop union rewriting history does it.

theres only one alfie

he played in a maroons shirt and was a star australian RL player

Not Interested in other sports.......RL is my fav got it?






So who was he again?

To be fair you only had to Google him to find out.

60,000 South Africans....

Few people in England give a cr4p.

In other words, he was better than any available English union back after playing half a dozen games of union.

I don't recall any Welsh league converts playing for GB so quickly.

No, I said that few people give a cr4p and that Jason Robinson had never heard of them before playing for them. You chose to twist it to something else because it is easier to knock.



No, you proved that the South Africans do care about the Lions. They do, we don't. Not too hard a concept.

I also think it should need pointing out that "British and Irish" isn't the same as "English".

When I've been in Wales, fair enough I did see a fair number of Lions shirts being worn in public but they are very rare sight in England. England tops - yes, Lions tops - rarely.

It was?

Surely the Barmy army was the England cricket supporters first and foremost?

fair enough, but i was more trying to find out how big a name he was and how his signing would impact on Rugby League not necessarily who he was and what he has done , i tohught someone who was a fan of both codes could give me an idea but instead they just seemed to want to shoot me down for not knowing..........ah well never mind!!

Hey understandable mate, personally I don't see anything wrong at all in that.

Well as a casual RU watcher I would say that Thomas is definitely one of the most famous and recognisable figures in Welsh RU.

In recent years with Wales achieving at least 2 Grand Slam's (AFAIK) he has played a big part in their revival (after years of underachievement by their standards in the 80's and 90's).

He has achieved a lot in RU and in terms of status and respect among the Welsh public I would imagine he is up there with Ieaun (sp) Evans, Rob Howley, Neil Jenkins, Shane Williams, and maybe even close to some of the legendary players of the 70's.

Always had a lot of respect for him since started watching RU around '97, AFAIK he's always been a role model on and off the pitch, and if he was years younger would probably have had the talent and dedication to make the transition to RL, but at 35 it would probably be too late for him now (at least at SL level).

Not sure what his current status is, i.e. I think he's now retired from international RU, but don't know about club level.

who an earth mentioned a barmy army.?

didnt u read the article.?

i beleive your 2nd quote to be wrong your whole country plays union, more clubs, players and supporters most in the world in one country i beleive.

by the way alf and poweel would be 2 good signings

Really KEVIN ELLIS was in first GB tour after he arrived.!

Also Farrell played in a got into a poor england backline and where presurised into picking him becuase of his high profile signing.

Also you cant compare really as farrell never played for the lions but Ellis played for GB and wales

Read the article 50,000 brits travelled to SA.!!!

Yes, he has retired from international rugby.

But is an ever present in the Blues team.!

Also he is still highly rated as the Ospreys are chasing his signature as well

eh? so 60,000 went but only one game each? strange thing to do. by the way im a union fan (although more league) and enjoy the lions enormously (scott gibbs knocking os du randt on his booty will stay with me forever) but the code doesnt half like to pump out dodgy numbers. i take them all these days with a pinch of salt. gareth thomas is a great player and i would love him to come to the crusaders. how well known he is or isnt in england in he his is known by every single person in wales and that is what matters. our win against hull will hopefully encourage him our way

Quote ="garethtaylor15"seems my guess aint that far off after all..!!! and another good stat is that shirt sales out sold real madrid... linky www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... Union.html'" that article says expected. typical union spin. absolute masters at it. the short thing for example. absolute classic spin. lions sell lots of shirts, more then real madrid. for what period exactly? over the year? what countries? whats the source? the month leading up to it? how exactly are shirt sales for a every four year your compared to a football team playing most of the year? as ever light on facts and sources but swallowed up by press and fans alike.

Quote ="garethtaylor15"seems my guess aint that far off after all..!!! and another good stat is that shirt sales out sold real madrid... linky www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... Union.html'" that article says expected. typical union spin. absolute masters at it. the short thing for example. absolute classic spin. lions sell lots of shirts, more then real madrid. for what period exactly? over the year? what countries? whats the source? the month leading up to it? how exactly are shirt sales for a every four year your compared to a football team playing most of the year? as ever light on facts and sources but swallowed up by press and fans alike.

I got it and as I pointed out to you "Brits" isn't the same thing as "English".