I think I would like to see Richard Owen at full back, and hopefully we can bring in a decent centre and a back rower, for me Mathers and Hudson wouldnt get in my 17.

owen
dixon
arundel
new centre
youngquest
chase
orr
huby
emitt
jones
ferres
hudson

jackson
walker
clark
thompson/holmes

1 - Hodgson
2 - J Monaghan
3 - Ratchford
4 - Atkins
5 - Riley
6 - Briers
7 - Myler
8 - Morley
9 - M Monaghan
10- Carvell
11- Westwood
12- Waterhouse
13- Bridge

14- Grix
15- Higham
16- Wood
17- Solomona

Plenty of rotation with the likes of Harrison and Cooper for starting 17.

Don't think we're good enough to be playing a man short



As well as a new centre I'd hope we can get an overseas backrower to replace Hudson who wouldn't make the 17 when everyone else is fit

Jeez, I thought I was exaggerating when I said you'd have more overseas than British in your starting 17

If our kids rip up the training field they will get their chance, and push out the Aussies for the first team. As for your kids, I couldn't name more than 3. Keep ur smart comments to urself.

I'll give you 3; Hall, Wheeldon and Hodgson. Oh no, sorry you're so desperate for "England players" that you'll probably think they're from your youngsters. How many players have you got playing for the England academy? (It's 0).

How do you know they will btw? All I know is you'll have possibly 11 of your starting 17 from abroad when the season comes. To me that is disgraceful.

As it looks I'm expecting us to be lining up like this-

S Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Carmont
Richards
Mellor
Finch
Fielden
Leuluai
Lima
Hansen
Hock
O'Loughlin

Subs
Mossop
Prescott
Farrell
McIlorum

Things can change and we will sign a few players I'm sure but at the minutes the names rumoured would be more back up then starters IMO.

I'd be happy enough with that side but would feel a lot more confident with a good right centre signed up (not Thomas).

Yep, the right centre slot could be a problem for you, would be good for Wigan and England to get Charnley a decent centre to play outside of to continue his development.

What is disgraceful is that HullFc are the only club who didn't give a SINGLE youngster a SL debut last season,

I'd like to have a look at Charnley at centre in pre season tbh and see how he gets on. He was terrific there for HKR and I think he'd nail it.

He'd need an experienced winger outside him though and I think a lot of Wiganers are hoping Amos Roberts can get his fitness and confidence back. Sadly I can't see it.

You've got the bit between your teeth with this one!

Oops missed out Lima

He is right tho, find that shocking. Don't you? No wonder young Briscoe said goodbye.

Well it wasnt quite a decent centre that we brought in, it was a prop and a back rower.
The Cas recruitment drive could now be complete, so here's my 17:-

Owen
Dixon
Arundel
Thompson or Griffin
Youngquest
Chase
Orr
Millington
Milner
Huby
Emmit
Jones
Ferres

Clark
Jackson
Mitchell
Walker

Mathers, Mcgoldrick, Hudson, Nash, Massey, Holmes, Snitch and Davies in reserve.

I think Brierley, Clare and Harris are part of the first team squad and have gone out on dual registration.

Looking at the squads I can't see the top 8 changing next year.

From a personal point of view is like to see saints line up with

Hohaia
Makinson
Shenton
Wheeler
Meli/foster
Gaskell
Lomax
Perry
Roby
LMS
Lafranchi
Soliola
Wilkin

Clough
Puletua
Flanagan
Wellens

McKinnon

Whiting
Martin
Yeaman
Briscoe

Horne
Seymour

O'Meley
Heremaia
Lynch

Manu
Tickle

Westerman

My first choice 13 for us next year, it should be able to compete against the majority of sides.

Whiting is not, never has been or ever will be a winger. With an experienced centre and a bit of coaching Will Sharp will still make a very good winger.

I agree about Richard Whiting but Will Sharp is not ready to start the season as our first-choice winger. I also believe that he can become a very good winger but at the minute, it would be Richard Whiting starting for me.

Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Carmont
Richards
Finch
Leuluai
Fielden
McIllorum
Mossop
Hansen
Hock
O'Loughlin

Prescott
Lauaki
Lima
Farrell

With the likes of Amos Roberts, Chris Tuson, Marsh, Dudson, Flower (both TBC) etc as backup. Good 17 (decent apart from the sieve of right side defence), but our depth is getting worse and worse.

4 big forwards on the bench, no interchange hooker, is there no young hooker coming through the ranks.

I'm happy with how Wakefield are shaping up. Not expecting great things, just improvement.
Unfortunate that Morrison won't be playing. Likely to be another addition yet.

1) Cockayne
2) Fox
3) Collis
4) Mellors
5) Morton
6) John
7) Smith (Tim)


Amor
9) Ellis
10) Wilkes
11) Southern
12) Lauitiiti
13) Washbrook

14) Wildie
15) Mariano
16) Higgins
17) Johnson

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19) Raleigh

Yeah we have a few, Carberry and Logan Tomkins along with Joe Mellor at half back. I suspect we'll see Farrell coming on for Mickey Mac, with Leuluai pushing up to hooker, Lockers taking the half-back role and Farrell doing loose forward (his best position IMHO).

We desperately need a new half back/centre though IMO. Even a veteran for 1-2 years to allow the lads to spell.