I don't remember the Championship clubs needing a deal of 40/50% of the SL one when there was P&R before?

It's because Starbug's just concocting conditions to support his faulty conclusion.

Your sig is rough mate, rough.

The Championship clubs don't , it's the SL expansion clubs that need it when they get relegated

Licencing is there to protect expansion , not protect Championship clubs from promotion

It does both.

You suggest that licensing protects Championship clubs from promotion ?

Well yes you are correct it does

The trouble with P&R is the boom and bust mentality that it generates.

Most SL player contracts are sorted out by mid-season. So any player who's told he won't be getting a new deal will know usually by Aug, which means he'll have his agent talking to other SL clubs. As there was no way of knowing which team would have come up under the old P&R system due to the unpredictability of play-off football, so the club that DOES come up only gets the scraps, so they are on the back foot before they've even started their SL campaign.

So the club that comes up is already weaker than the other teams in SL it terms of recruitment AND the fitness level between Championship and Super League. And very often the club that came up were the whipping boys.

The current way is that the club that's coming up will know, I believe, in April. So they've plenty of time to get themselves ready for SL and have a fair chance at any free agents and means that the club that comes up has a fighting chance.

Where Widnes the ' whipping boys ' in 2002 ? , Huddersfield in 2003 ?, Salford in 2004 ?

When the Championship ( NFP/NL 1 as was ) season finished in July , there was no problem , when the season was put back to October , then we started to have problems , so the answer would be ?

You state ' The current way ' , what current way , you mean this year , after this year there is no guarantee that a club will ever be allowed to come up again , if the new TV deal gives the SL clubs more money ( which let's face it , most of them need it to stay in business ) , then the gap between the Championship and SL will grow even bigger

So the problem isn't going up , it's dropping down , that is why we have a ' Licence ' system , to protect the clubs ( Expansion mostly ) at the top , not the ones at the bottom

since semi automatic P+R was scrapped two clubs in the top flight have gone bust (one of them twice), the "mentality" remains and this myth along with a few others is trying to cover up that it was all done to protect those in the top flight from playing in the second one, something that has been made much harder by recent changes to the structure

No the governing body hasn't by itself killed off the game, but they have assisted the SL towards doing that with their softly softly " you can get away with murder approach"!!!

Even now have they have not realised that something is wrong overall.

If Sky EVER pull the plug , and look at how they promote and cover the other code compared to ours, then the pro game in this country is finished.

Championship clubs are not currently big enough to play in Super League, end of story. Trying to pretend they are and contrive a system of P&R with seemingly no logical basis is just completely stupid. As for the OP - you're a clown.

You are quite correct , apart from Widnes , there is no Championship club anywhere near strong enough to make the jump up to SL

Problem is , there never will be , if that is a scenario people are happy with , then fine

There's no reason to believe there never will be. Maybe some of the current Championship clubs never will be, but that's the nature of sport. Clubs like Stevenage and Lincoln City will probably never be big enough to be in the Premiership. The fact that a lot of current clubs are based in fairly small towns with limited potential for growth is unfortunate, but it's just the way it is. But there's nothing stopping new clubs with more potential from springing up and becoming big enough over time.

Widnes are NOT repeat NOT good enough for an SL spot, although there are those who believe in fairies still!!!!

So only clubs based in large citys should be considered for SL ? I'm your opinion ?

Add a few SL clubs to that. For a few clubs, take away the Sky money - strip that away and what you are left with is a Championship club. I'm not saying Championship Clubs can make the step up but £1.2m sure does help with the gulf my friend.

They will be on the 31st March

Why should Lincoln , a city with a local catchment of 250,000 not be considered big enough for the Premiership if they won promotion on the pitch ?

There's a more recent actual example - Blackpool! Who would have denied them their season and probably a season next year?

The governing body are very inept of promoting the game. They make up rules then manipulate them.............just look at the Hull K R model.
The good of the game never gets reported by the media, only the bad side of the game gets column inches. The governing body just sit back and appear to be quite happy in the Sky Goldfish Bowl, until they pull the plug that is.
The game in super league has been asset stripped, by way of home grown players and ground ownership.

Yeah yeah yeah, take your crap comments elsewhere you stupid plum.

No, I've never said that. The population of the local district doesn't have that much to do with it, I doubt there are any top flight sports clubs anywhere that draw support exclusively from the surrounding town. But it's fair to say that places like Hunslet and Whitehaven will probably never really be able to support SL clubs, for various reasons. There isn't that much potential for more growth with clubs like that, probably not enough to ever get them up to Super League level. Whereas clubs in other places might have more potential.
Agreed. But the Super League clubs are currently in a better position, if for no other reason than they have the money and infrastructure in place to compete at that level. Replacing them with new clubs for the sake of it wouldn't achieve anything.

So if Roman Abramovich bumps into some Haven lass and decides it's the place for him , they should be denied , even if they can only get attendances of 2,500 ?

No, every case should be judged on its own merits, I don't know why you are expecting me to instantly dismiss or accept such a hypothetical and unlikely situation. If Abramovich bought Accrington Stanley they would probably be in the Premier League before too long. Does that mean Accrington Stanley are currently big enough for the Premiership, or ever will be in the forseeable future? A billionaire taking over the club is an unforseeable event. Your example has no relevance to anything and really I don't understand why you have posted it.

The point being , you are deciding who is ' big enough ' and who isn't , but the world isn't like that , and yes you are correct , Mr Abramovich could get Accrington Stanley into the premiership , but he'd have a harder job getting Haven into SL

Wakey had two interested businessmen , one the man who now owns them and another apparently worth well over a hundred million , he lost interest after a meeting with the RFL , now what do you think could have happened to make him lose interest ?

I would suggest he asked them two questions

1 are Wakey liable to lose their licence ? , answer yes

2 is a Championship club guaranteed a SL place in 2015 ? , answer no

Businessman worth hundred million walks away

Licencing has taken away any chance of investement in a Championship club