It has to be discussed at least every month, otherwise we'll all die.

No more than it is time for Calder or Hull Utd. Judge clubs pragmatically on what they offer, not their location. You cite Perth and Adelaide, but Melbourne and Auckland can be offered in response. Respectively they could be the models for Quins and Catalans/Celtic.

If RL can make to the other side of the World and flourish, surely it won't get a nose bleed passing Birmingham.

Welcome to 2005. Try the beef.

If nothing else, it was a hell of a fishing trip by the OP.

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BMcK....take up another sport mate coz you're not going to catch much with that bait

Get rid of Salford too, their crowds are too low. One of Wakefield and Castleford should be ditched as they are too close together. The basic criteria should be having a junction of the M62 as an access point into your town/city. Don't have one? Then you are out of here.

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How's tricks Schoey?

Remember this time last year? In the weeks leading up to 'The Announcement'?

I was ready to end it all back then.

Why do Huddersfield (or any club) need to rely on Catalans supporters to boost their gates?

Why can't clubs follow the lead that Wigan took only last week and try and attract locals to games instead?

It's only a big loss of revenue if clubs are too lazy / inept to attract local people and if that is the case, then perhaps it's their licence that should be reconsidered rather than the Catalans'?

And a train station.

That's Leigh's next application sorted

Preferably one where the last train back home for the visiting fans doesn't leave well before the end of a Friday night 8pm kickoff - Hull/Rovers take note...

And Leeds, Saints and Wigan

Funnily enough, I've never had a problem getting home from Leeds after a Friday night game.

Most places in reality

Cats are well worth their place, they get good crowds and are passionate RL fans and have been long before SL in that area. I hope CC can survive, they are in it now and we have everthing to lose as a sport should it fail, BTW I was not in favour of their inclusion, but we now have to get on with it, I do see them struggling financially and it will be a miracle if they survive in the long term, but if the RFL bail them out it is as good as admitting we have two sets of rules, one for Widnes and one for CC.

Quins produce the stuff on the field, but if i live to be 300 I doubt we will see them averaging 6,000 a game (even with free tickets).

Surely a wind up?

Barmy thread. I agree fully with removing Quins and Celtic. The former has had enough chances and never looked like capitalising on the potential down there. Perhaps a different London franchise could work, one with an identity of its own and a proper home.

Celtic are struggling financially already and don't have the required facilities to play SL. If they got a new ground, perhaps, but I always felt the choice of location was strange given how the area struggles in Union and life in general.

Catalans though, despite being relatively weak this season, are a fantastic setup. They are getting solid 8,000 crowds when there are no away fans and they are as passionate as any in SL. I'd go as far as saying that franchise has been a complete and utter success.

In reality, for SL to be what everyone envisages it to be we need to get rid of:

Quins - To be replaced with another Southern team. I'd say 'Canvey Island Conger Eels' or 'Clapham Constrictors' would be good ideas.

Salford - Poor crowds, poor club setup, new stadium is a fantasy and they beat Saints last week so I've gone off them even more.

Wakefield - Really, why do they exist? The club is nothing.
Wigan - Not in line with the ethical and moral protocols of SL. Drug abusing, blatant cheating, employing cheats who bet on their club to lose, they just don't fit with modern business practices.
St Helens - Rubbish ground, they can reapply once the new one is finished in 2049.
Castleford - Poor ground, and just very chavy in general

SL should contain:

1 - Bradford Bullfrogs
2 - Leeds Leopards
3 - Hull KR
4 - Hull Hippos
5 - Catalan Dragons
6 - Toulouse Tigers
7 - Warrington Wolfs
8 - Birmingham Bulldogs
9 - Edinburgh Eagles
10 - Glasgow Giraffes
11 - Ipswich Iguanas
12 - Newquay Neanderthals

Geographical spread? - Tick
Population and local interest? - Tick
Mass marketable name and gimmick? - Tick

We can't apply from championship 1 anyway can we?

Evidence if needed that Celtis are going to be dropped from Superleague:

RLFans have yet to remove the 'NL Mods' from Moderating the CC forum.

Proof if proof be needed I think.

Lol, that means I can still ban people on there then...!

Because even the biggest Rugby League clubs never sell out games week in week out.

Super league doesnt have the equivalent of Manchester United.


Rugby League clubs need bigger attendances.


Cleary a Wigan v Hull match will have a bigger crowd than a Wigan v Celtic Crusaders one.

Same as a Huddersfield v Leeds game will have a bigger crowd than a Huddersfield v Catalans one.

Therefore the takings will be higher.

I don't think the most dyed in the wool footy fan could really disagree with that one.

And to get bigger attendances clubs need to be targeting people in the local area who will hopefully return throughout the season, visiting fans provide a boost but will only come once a season so clubs shouldn't rely on them.

As has been said clubs need to follow what Wigan did last week and highlight a game with a generally low attendance and work with a local business to get sell extra tickets.

The point (which has hurtled over your head in low orbit) is that it is up to clubs to increase attendances by attracting more home fans, not relying on how many away fans pitch up.

I see you live in Worcester.

So your nearest club is either Celtic or Warrington???

Celtic Crusaders will follow the same career pattern as London Broncos/Crusaders/Harlequins.


A few name changes ..... a couple of relocations.... bailed out by the RFL a few times.....and the circle will continue.


South Wales has always been a rugby union area.


And it always will be.

Hopefully Trinitys’ attendance against the Celtic Crusaders will be one of the higher ones we’ve experienced this season.